Hi, irdadump now reveals : 11:05:49.974154 xid:cmd 5e34fd72 > ffffffff S=6 s=0 (14) 11:05:50.064048 xid:cmd 5e34fd72 > ffffffff S=6 s=1 (14) 11:05:50.154126 xid:cmd 5e34fd72 > ffffffff S=6 s=2 (14) 11:05:50.244021 xid:cmd 5e34fd72 > ffffffff S=6 s=3 (14) 11:05:50.334098 xid:cmd 5e34fd72 > ffffffff S=6 s=4 (14) 11:05:50.424083 xid:cmd 5e34fd72 > ffffffff S=6 s=5 (14) 11:05:50.514083 xid:cmd 5e34fd72 > ffffffff S=6 s=* mossdog hint=0400 [ Computer ] (23) and ifconfig shows : irda0 Link encap:IrLAP HWaddr 30:30:31:3a UP RUNNING NOARP MTU:2048 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:91 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:8 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:1391 (1.3 Kb) But am still unable to recognise irda from phone. Was working fine under 8.2 on same machine and same phone. Does anyone have any further suggestions please? Cheers Francesco