shtar:/usr/lib> ll libfont* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 200264 2003-12-16 05:25 libfontconfig.a -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 864 2003-12-16 05:25 libfontconfig.la* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2004-03-12 09:51 libfontconfig.so -> libfontconfig.so.1.0.4* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2004-03-12 09:51 libfontconfig.so.1 -> libfontconfig.so.1.0.4* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 187854 2003-12-16 05:25 libfontconfig.so.1.0.4* ishtar:/usr/lib> ll libfree* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1545924 2003-09-23 09:46 libfreetype.a -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 728 2003-09-23 09:46 libfreetype.la* lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 20 2003-11-04 11:57 libfreetype.so -> libfreetype.so.6.3.3* lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 20 2003-11-03 23:09 libfreetype.so.6 -> libfreetype.so.6.3.3* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 394821 2003-09-23 09:46 libfreetype.so.6.3.3* ishtar:/usr/lib> nm libfreetype.so.6.3.3|grep FT_Get_PS_Font_Info 0000eb00 T FT_Get_PS_Font_Info ishtar:/usr/lib> ------- Weird....seems to be there.... Ok....even weirder...I just executed the same command in the same font dir and it works now. I hate this. I used to like computers because the were reliable, predictable -- they didn't change their behavior based on what day it is or whatever....This isn't the logical behavior I'd expect from an M5...er, x86... whatever... Now I just have to figure out the rest of it....it might be helpful if the manpage referenced on "fc-cache" : SEE ALSO fontconfig(3) __vendorversion__ FC-CACHE(1) "fontconfig" actually existed. Somehow it didn't get installed on my system. Looks like the font config package went out a bit hurriedly as the forgot to replace __vendorversion__ with a real version, as well. Is that it though? I just run that and xft should pick up the new fonts? I assume I have to reload it or restart it?...Thanks ....for getting me through the weird library problem....I ran some general verify scripts that looked for missing non-local related files and if it found them, try to restore them, but I got a few errors on restores -- of course the script did't list out the package it was processing on one rpm where it ran out of input data...weird.. -linda