I know I should answer to this, but I can't help it... I'll try to be as polite as I can. On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 20:53, c_nelson77 wrote:
Ok here is a little(BIG) Rant I have w/ Linux/SUSE, actualy 5 . .
1. Why do I have to upgrade the entire system just to get a new version of an app? k3b, gaim, etc? I upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0 just so I can have working apps. I can't even easily upgrade KDE to 3.2 using SuSE provided RPM's because it requires that I have already upgraded my KDE outside of what SUSE provides me? wtf? All I want is a working app like k3b, gaim, mozilla, kmail, etc. I don't care about the 1000000's of dependancies.
SuSE runs fine without any upgrades. That is what I buy SuSE for. It provides me with literally thousands of pre-configured programs I can load and run with out any dependancy problems. Frankyly I'm amazed that they not only manage to do it, but have continously managed it for years. If you want the bleading front edge, you are going to have to blead! I realise that KDE 3.2 is out, that is is faster, that it is better. But I don't have the time to go poke around, and play with dependencies, downloads, compiles, make options, and optimizations. I'll just buy SuSE 9.1Pro and save my self countless hours for the 75$ I release you are fustrated, 'cause SuSE doesn't seam to give you want. But have you really thought about what you are really asking? What do you expect from SuSE? That they provide every single update preconfigured and patched in source form, and the binaries also. And for which packages? For all of them? And what about the inconsistencies and incompatabilites? For example Zope does not work with the new version of Python, so SuSE provides a seperate version of python just for Zope. These things take time, and a lot of work, and SuSE does the best job at it I've seen anybody do in the buisness. So 1) Give them a break. 2) If you for the bleading edge, don't cry when you bleed 8-) That's my 2 cents...