On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 06:16, Ken Schneider wrote:
There are quite a few people on this list that use metered dial up accounts and the amount of OT traffic was a burdon to them, costing them more money for no more additional help.
People that have been using linux/unix for a long time and settled on SuSE because it is a great stable distro were getting tired of all of the of topic traffic as well which is also why the OT list was created.
That is why you need to keep the OT stuff on the OT list.
Ken reposted my entire rant, but apparently failed to read much of it. I'm saying that the OT list is failing to meet the objective people claim it does. This is why I've asked others if they actually subscribe. While I was subscribed, there was a lot of political content that I found offensive. At least talking about SuSE's market position isn't _morally_ offensive to anyone, though the concept of talking about it seems to be _ethically_ offensive to many. On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 23:22, gv-dated-1065327656.lkglnbce@mygirlfriday.info wrote:
Q3. What is not appropriate content for the list? A3. Commercial postings of any kind, job postings, non-computer/Linux related material. Because of the large size of the list (1500 subscribers and ~200 messages per day), flame wars and off-topic posting can sometimes result in you being unsubscribed and, in extreme cases, banned from the list. Also, please unsubscribe now if you planning on posting advocacy-type things. There are lots of advocacy newsgroups such as comp.os.linux.advocacy.
That's a fine idea, and I'd like to subscribe to some news groups, but as long as other people can legitimately complain about having metered access, and not being able to afford to download a few more messages, then I get to complain that I don't have a news server I can use. (The cable company provides one; my DSL provider does not. And please don't tell me to use a free one. I've tried. I know how well that works long term.) If some people can't be expected to pay for more time online, that I can't be expected to pay for a proper news server. On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 22:50, Peter Evans wrote:
Whenever these sorts of threads rear their heads on this list, people get apoplectic, and tell the posters to go to the OT list.
I see very little apoplexy: those who object do so curtly but coolly.
Fair enough. I might have been a little over the top there. So that's it? No one wants to make any changes to either list?!