I got the "upgraded" Xfree4.3.0 working, thanks to the list (delete everything remotely related to font.cache). I've actually seen a bit of improvement as well (no residual traces when dragging icons w/ backing store on) Unfortunately it sounds as if 3d acceleration is not available on ati 7500 cards w/out upgrading to kernel 2.4.20. This presents a dilema for me as netraverse (makers of win4lin) generally only make updates/patches available for "official" kernel updates, not for the testing kernels provided by mantel. So my question, does anyone have an idea when an official kernel update might be seen? Alternately, has anyone gotten 3D working on an ATI radeon 7500 with kernel 2.4.19-115? TIA -- dh Don't shop at GoogleGear.com!