So, following some advice posted here on the list a while back, I did a "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade" last night before I went off to bed. When I checked out the progress this am, apt-get complained that is was "leaving back" all of the installed kde 3.0.x packages, and rpm had failed on trying to install the kde 3.1 packages that apt-get had downloaded. Am I missing something? Why were the 3.0.x packages "left back"? I assume this syntax (while grammatically incorrect) is trying to say that it is not going to upgrade the kde packages. If so, then when is apt grabbing those packages and causing rpm to fail trying to install them? Finally, why is rpm failing to upgrade those packages (autorun with -Uvh options) indicating package conflicts between the kde 3.1 and kde 3.0.x packages? -- John LeMay KC2KTH Senior Enterprise Consultant NJMC | http://www.njmc.com | Phone 732-557-4848 Specializing in Microsoft and Unix based solutions