Yes, I got caught with my pants down once on this as well. I did a full update after a fresh install and didn't realize that in the 496 RPM's being updated that there was a kernel update in there as well. I just simply didn't look at everything that had been downloaded. For anyone who's interested. You can see what apt has downloaded in /var/cache/apt/archives. After you've looked at what is there you can delete those RPM's unless you want them. I only got smacked once with that. The issue is though...after you do the massive update after the 8.0 install if you run apt to upgrade your system about once every week or so..your not going to get the huge amount of updates and it's much easier to manage. :) * Richard (ratcheson@earthlink.net) [020902 04:06]: ::Today I used apt-get to update my suse 8.0 instalation. All went well until I ::rebooted later. LILO didnt work. It stopped on L. Fortunately I remembered ::doing the update so I figured that was the culprit. It was. :: ::After booting an installed system with a floppy, I simply went to a term ::window as su and ran lilo. :: ::Moral, save yourself some heartache. After an update either run lilo or have a ::boot disk handy so you can recover without spending a day trying to make the ::disks through windows. ::ra -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I tell you what you should see.