I'm trying to create an entry into crontab so that I can backup files every night. I created a file that has the following: /bin/sh 45 17 * * * /bin/tar /mnt/win/tom/backup /home/tom/act I saved the above as 'backup' I then opened a console, su'd and typed: crontab -u root backup The response is "You (root) are not allowed to use this program (crontab) Contact your sysadmin to change /var/spool/cronallow or /var/spool/crondeny" First, it should be /var/spool/cron/allow. Second, just incase the above is right, I made a file cronallow. Both root and tom are in both files, so I don't see what the problem is. I also tried the command as 'tom' and got the same response. I tried Kcron and it keeps crashing. Anyone with some thoughts? Tom -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com