You are not making an apples for apples comparison here, IMHO. You are
running WinXP home, which would suggest to me that you were running Win2K
Professional if not even Win2K Personal.
An apples for apples comparison would be to run Win2K Server and compare.
There is a huge difference between Win2K professional and Win2K Server,
speed drops dramatically while power increases dramatically.
Or, in the alternative, turn off many of the services which I would imagine you are
running on the SuSE install and then compare.
I have compared Win2K Server without IIS running against a SuSE 7.3 with
Apache, Tomcat and SuSEfirewall2 running. SuSE goots at least 50% faster and
performance in X is equivalent when using KDE and much faster when running
fvwm95. Needless to say, X is not used that often since that is not the purpose of
the SuSE installation, which would have also been true with Windows if the
capability to avoid the GUI was even possible.
Jim
02/17/02 11:33:19 AM, "Christopher John Shaker"
James:
I'll second the first poster's comments. Modern versions of Windows *are* noticably faster than current SuSE Linux 7.3 Professional on my hardware, too.
I recently upgraded my dual boot workstation (SuSE Linux 7.3 professional and Windows) from Win2K to WinXP Home, and WinXP is even faster than Win2K. It boots faster. It's display drivers are very fast. It's network stack seems faster than Win2K's.
The hardware is a 1.4 Ghz Athlon/Duron, 768 MB DDR PCI 2100 RAM, Adaptec 2940U2W SCSI, Quantum Atlas 10K 18WLS Ultra/160 Wide SCSI drive, and NVidia Riva TNT2 Model 64 Pro. This machine is on a fast, land based network (768 kbit/sec, bidirectional).
I've noticed the same thing on my older 800 Mhz PIII system, which is also dual boot, SuSE Linux 7.3 professional/Win 2K. Win2K also is much better at dealing with Satellite networking latencies than SuSE Linux is. This PIII system is on Starband.
Chris Shaker cjshaker@shaker-net.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bliss"
To: "Dwaine Felch" Cc: Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] installing suse 7.3 - again ;)) Ah, nice to see a Microsoft Shill posting. Actually, there are free upgrades, you just need to put forth some effort to acquire them. Unlike Microsoft for which there are no free upgrades, the upgades are generally bug fixes of the previous buggy OS, and there are tremendous numbers of security holes which the user is paying good money to install on their computer.
Glad you like 2000, it crashes rather consistently on my system while SuSE linux does not. Faster? what the hell are you doing, running 2000 on a P 4 and running linux on a 486?
Get a life, most of the people on this list know the truth.
02/16/02 09:09:11 AM, Dwaine Felch
wrote: As linux companies get a taste of money they have started to become like Microsoft, as we know is one of the best at raking in revenue. Just in the past year or year and half Suse and Mandrake had two releases each with no free upgrades. Suse quit providing ISOs for x86; with each turn of the corner linux companies decrease benefits and scam you for more money, this will continue to increase.
In the coming years linux marketing will be no different than the other evil empire. It won't be long and people will be angry at linux and be looking for alternatives.
Myself have found Windows 2000 a much better OS than any linux I've worked with, W2k always runs faster and has a well laid out GUI with polished features; KDE is clunky and slow with a 100x more bugs and hicups than you will ever find in Windows 2000.
I think Microsoft is excellent at developing a product if they concentrated there efforts on a version of linux they would blow the doors off all other linux companies.
A few of many things to ponder.
Ever seince SuSE version 7.1, SuSE has decided to become little money hungry > bastards and they no longer have the install ISO's on line, but they are available to paying > customers. BUT, belive me when I say this, SuSE would be more then happy to take down their > FTP server and all other mirrors. But they cant cuz Linus would have nothing to do with it. and the GPL will not allow it. Their says would be numbered if they pulled a stunt like that. So you can still get SuSE for free off the FTP server, BUT not in an install ISO form. You have have to download it package by package. And this is where they get really shitty about some things.
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