THis is an excellent idea Joe. They could drop the manuals and add more SuSE Stickers (though my peference is the older stickers). I havn't used the manuals since version 6.4. From what others have told me, the manuals with 7.3 are very good.. Just no need, with the online doc and the web its easier to search online than to read the book. Of course, the books do come in handy when needing reading material for the "reading room". SuSE: if you take this route, then PLEASE don't put the cardboard disk wallet into another cardboard box. Just shrinkwrap it and put a sticker on the outside. Robert I do have one suggestion tho! What if SuSE were to release a "smaller" version of SuSE with their standard release. This release would lack the manuals and related materials, and include JUST the CDs? Something like FreeBSD currently does. This would reduce the overhead for the manuals themselves, as well as freight (much less weight) getting it from SuSE to the consumer!