opps ok im getting tired just noticed that i spelled ftp server wrong in last post on subject line. but I think you get the message. sorry abt double post. jack I has hosting some rpms for karol on my server here at home. my linux box is not getting out on the net nor is it seen on the net, its like its dead, can not ping out or into the box. was working this morning so sometime this afternoon something happened an it not working. I will have it back up as soon as i find the problem. my network is working since i can get out from my windows machine so I know its not the internet. an also i can telnet/ftp into it from inside the lan. I have even changed to dhcp an let the nic gets its own ip from the linksys router an its gets one but still want get out. will send out another message when i have it back up an running an i have the backup restored of karol's rpms for the suserpm loging. jack Jack Malone jack@malone.tyler.com http://www.ballistic.com/~jemalone Luke 4:18-19 "The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor." (NIV)