To be honest, I still think the X Managers need to come a long way before Linux hits the average +ACI-PC World+ACI- customer. I like KDE, and I use KDE - despite the resource hungry thing it is. But there is something about it that I don't like and I just can't understand why+ACE- It looks... how do I put it... +ACI-Not Professional+ACI-. It looks disjointed. I am not making myself clear, but I don't know how to put it+ACEAIQAh- Is it the font? Is it the icons? I've tried different +ACI-themes+ACI- and I seem to get the same impression. Perhaps it looks too technical -- and I like to think of myself in this category+ACEAIQAhACEAIQAh- KDE have done a good job, despite my moans - and I am looking forward to 2 - something just doesn't look right though+ACE- GNOME to me has that better something, but at the same time looks too +ACI-square+ACI- and too babyish+ACE-? I used GNOME when I used RedHat (where Gnome is favoured by RedHat) and I kind of liked it. Someone help me out here and please explain to me what that missing +ACI-thing+ACI- is with the window managers+ACE- Perhaps I've been using NT/Win98 for too long. What a thought, eh?+ACE- And I have tried a number of WMs... esp as I am constantly trying to find the happy medium between usability and funcionality and size when accessing desktops via Java VNC. Kev -----Original Message----- From: Steven T. Hatton +AFs-mailto:hattons+AEA-cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil+AF0- Sent: 29 March 2000 12:56 To: suse-linux-e+AEA-suse.com Subject: +AFs-SLE+AF0- Gnome +ACY- KDE: friends or foes? Do any of y'all have opinions as to the relationship and future of GNOME and the KDE? I have run into a few very nice GNOME tools lately. I have been using the KDE since it was in alpha. I do like it. I haven't spent a lot of time on GNOME, but it is looking more attractive these days. Is this forking? Do we get hybrid vigor or just a zero sum game where one rises to prominence and the other goes the way of the beta video tape format? Where's Michael Lankton when you need him? Steve -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe+AEA-suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help+AEA-suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/