On Wednesday 10 February 2010 07:27:17 Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hey,
i would like to get going with the structure. Judging from the recent messages in this list we're dancing around it and don't really go forward. IMHO we're taking the wrong approach in trying to think everything through before doing anything. I think we need to take the ship out of the harbor and roll with the waves :)
I agree on both points, and that is exactly what came up in IRC conversation with Remy. There is no way that we can do much more without having real tools in our hands.
So I want to start tomorrow 11:00 CET with the new structure on wiki.o.o. For that i will get rid of the test content that i there today,
The Main namespace can be cleaned up, but Help and openSUSE with few articles there wasn't used for testing, so there are actual articles that will be used in daily operations.
take reviewed content from
http://en.opensuse.org/Transition_list_table
and general structure pages and start. I will let you know daily where i am and what you can do to help me.
Ok.
Rajko you would have to limit your testing to a specific area, sorry.
Testing is the name of the game, but as you can see from Recent changes that I'm done with dry runs ie. "testing". The rest is real organization.
I propose /Rajko or do you need something else like a namespace or something? Please let me know.
It was mentioned few times in recent posts, "Archive" namespace for content that we want to keep as historic reference, for instance older Weekly News articles, Linux show reports and talks, meetings minutes etc. It should be set to be editable only by admins. There will be nothing that users should add or correct. The accompanying "Archive talk" can be editable by users, to enable comments if there is anything that should be moved, removed, or made late corrections. I'm still in favor of Development namespace, or some other name that can better describe content, for all articles that are technical in the nature, so they don't fit in openSUSE namespace, but should not mix in search results intended for general openSUSE public.
Any objections? Speak now or forever hold your peace! :)
:) There is something that we should think can we apply to our wiki transition: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Namespace_manager http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Namespace_manager First has at the top of the page template that tells: "This page was recently moved from MetaWiki...." and the second has that the page has been moved to MediaWiki.org. This allows transition without much pain, and will keep users informed what happened to article that is transferred. Our message must be different like:"Article was temporarily moved to wiki.o.o ..." (instead of moved) and when we have basic transferred then switch wikis and look in server logs for "Not found" pages and fix problems if request was for existing en.o.o page. BTW, list of "not found" pages can help us improve wiki anyway, not only in case of transition related breakages. The same is valid for search that did not jump to page that we already have, but I have to look is there any hidden record/log for search.
Henne
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