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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Forum squad introductions.
  • From: "Rajko M." <rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 06:39:35 -0600
  • Message-id: <200912200639.35632.rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx>
On Sunday 20 December 2009 02:32:41 DenverD wrote:
Shayon Mukherjee wrote:
certainly all the details or so called MINUTES will be presented
to the ML . So we would have a definite place for the data to be stored
:) .

ok, thanks...but, why in the mail list and not in the wiki itself?

i ask, because it is apparent to me that there are thousands of folks
over in forums.opensuse.org who don't feel 'comfortable' in mail list
or usenet settings...

and, personally i find transcripts from IRC conversations to be
extremely poor substitutes for clear directions/details/FAQs and etc..

dd

Wiki is poor discussion medium that Wikipedia is trying to address with
extension that will emulate basic functionality of forum.

Mail list because its default communication mode uses threading so that is
easy to find who answers to whom, which is useful to follow discussion. In
this case it is also added benefit of list dedicated to openSUSE Wiki
maintenance discussions and nothing else, so it should be easier to find
related threads.

Disadvantage of ML, and NNTP access to forums, is that one can see only
Subject line which slows down reading, as every message has to be opened.
Also text only mode is making habit to use text when image can tell much more
with lesser effort.

Forums would be ideal if somehow one can have thread on left side of the
browser window, and messages on right, like Google groups.

Transcripts have all properties of the text only communication that is good
for people familiar with a topic, but when outsider reads it, it probably
looks like hieroglyphs on the wall.

FAQ is good medium to fast introduction to certain topic, but people have
learned from many posted on the web that they are not priority to read.

They are more often AFAQ (anticipated FAQ) then real questions asked by users,
and commercial entities don't include answers on troubleshooting questions in
the FAQ, as it spoils rosy image of their product or service.

We have some of directions (guidelines), but that is one of things that we
develop and sort in openSUSE namespace:
http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Special:AllPages&from=&to=&namespace=4

Some of those pages belong to Help namespace, some will be obsoleted in the
new wiki at http://wiki.opensuse.org , like any staring with Checked as we
have FlaggedRevs extension that will do all we need.

The IRC is a good way to exchange short messages when working on something.
Does this <link> looks good?
What to do with <link>?
In general IRC is good for cases where one wants/needs fast info exchange
that has not value later, so no need to archive anything.


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