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Re: [opensuse-wiki] RSS news feed - a technical investigation
  • From: Peter Flodin <pflodin@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 22:40:14 +1100
  • Message-id: <8b1a1e10602120340m3a15e0ddp7ce37ecf42f9110e@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On 2/12/06, Marcus Rueckert <mrueckert@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 2006-02-12 09:42:02 +1100, Peter Flodin wrote:
> > Community waits for no man :-)
>
> That shows your respect to other people's work.
> Sometimes it seems the community doesnt consider novell/suse employees
> as part of the community.

That's unfair.

I will refrain from reversing the argument to novell/suse doesn't
value community technical input, by not asking the community here.

My line "Community waits for no man" is a variation of "Time waits for
no man", it is not a judgement that whatever work is done towards the
same end is not worth anything. I understand that it is unreasonable
to expect all SUSE staff to respond to this mailing list (especially
over the weekend), it was to merely say that the discussion will go
on.

> > He will probably come to the same conclusion I have.
>
> no he wont. we want to go a different approach.

I didn't recall that we discussed this earlier...oh you mean 'we' as in SUSE.

> > There are extensions to get RSS into wiki, but if you want to find out
> > how to publish news via RSS from your Wikimedia wiki, you go to
> > wikinews.org, as news is all they do.
> >
> > They run an external perl script that converts the wikipage to RSS.
> >
> > They are hosted here: http://jeays.net/rss.htm and also put on feedburner.com
>
> sounds ugly

Doesn't it! Can you believe that it is not a standard part of wikimedia.

<snip=a bunch of points we mostly agree on />

> reinvent wheels?
>
> darix - a member of this community.

Darix, from your tone it is clear that I have either offended you or
upset you, if so I appologise sincerely, my intention was to try to
get something actually happening on this mailing list, not just a talk
fest, actually set a small defined target and achieving it through
collaboration. Ask people whether a web forum is good or bad, and you
will never get an answer, give a problem that needs to be solved and a
collaborative approach is great.

Let me just clearly state, that I have great respect for all of the
SUSE staff, and I appreciate that the job of trying to run (no create)
an opensource project is one that would sometimes seem thankless, and
unappreciative, with the community forever accusing you of being
closed, not listening, too slow to provide facilities, etc etc. There
is a natural us and them mindset, which SUSE staff are equally guilty
of showing, but I don't think this extends to a value judgement from
either side.

Well I thank you all for giving me the opportunity to be here and I do
value everybody's input, which of course includes yours and your
collegues.

I look forward to any developments reported against Bug #105496, and
maybe Martin can share some of his thoughts here.

With apologies,
Peter "Pflodo" Flodin

ps. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=105496
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