October 2011 - openSUSE Web - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-web] [ml-admin] Merging this list with opensuse-web
by Henne Vogelsang 26 Oct '11

26 Oct '11

Hey Peepz, in light of the recent initiative to reduce the amount of communication channels I would like to fold the opensuse-wiki list into the opensuse-web list. The only thing you, the subscribers, would have to do is to update your filters to sort by opensuse-web criteria. If nobody of you objects until the 15th of November 12:00 UTC I will merge the lists. Thanks in advance for your consideration. Henne -- ml-admin http://www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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17 Oct '11

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[opensuse-web] Gitorius, list of opensuse web design repos
by Rajko M. 17 Oct '11

17 Oct '11

http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Web_design_resources Please add what is missing and check for errors. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-web] Re: berlios shutdown - move to gitorious
by Matthew Ehle 09 Oct '11

09 Oct '11

Please keep the opensuse front page and the wiki as svn repositories as well, if at all possible. As you may remember, we use subversion to update the material on all of the servers, and none of them have git installed. It would be much easier on us to keep them on subversion. >>> Juergen Weigert 10/05/11 4:25 AM >>> On Oct 05, 11 11:59:42 +0200, Thomas Schmidt wrote: > As Berlios.de will be shutting down all services at the end of the year, we need to move out our > infrastructure and translation repositories from there. > > I went through the infrastructure projects, and migrated the active ones to gitorious: > > www.opensuse.org frontpage: > git@gitorious.org:opensuse/www_opensuse_org.git > > wiki: > git@gitorious.org:opensuse/wiki_opensuse_org.git > > shop.opensuse.org: > git@gitorious.org:opensuse/shop_opensuse_org.git > > party: > git@gitorious.org:opensuse/party_o_o.git > > news.opensuse.org: > git@gitorious.org:opensuse/news_o_o.git > > lizards.opensuse.org: > git@gitorious.org:opensuse/lizards_o_o.git > > help.opensuse.org: > git@gitorious.org:opensuse/help_o_o.git > > apparmor.opensuse.org: > git@gitorious.org:opensuse/apparmor_o_o.git > > > There are some folders where I'm not sure if they are in use, and where the owners would like to put them: > > license.o.o please also to gitorious. > documentation/ documentation/release-notes-opensuse/ is in use. It is currently being updated to reflect 12.1 This could be become part of the opensuse-doc repo, and move with it. svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/opensuse-doc also needs a new home. We need this as an svn repo. Our mechanics uses svn properties, which are not available on gitorious, I believe. I would like to have this hosted at svn.opensuse.org ... > tools/ tools/License-Syntax/ is in use. Upstream for license.o.o gitorious or sf.net are fine. thanks, JW- -- o \ Juergen Weigert paint it green! __/ _=======.=======_ | jw(a)suse.de back to ascii! __/ _---|____________\/ \ | 0911 74053-508 __/ (____/ /\ (/) | _____________________________/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, J.Guild, F.Imendoerffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg), Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany SuSE. Supporting Linux since 1992. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-web] Re: web site bug 646418
by Felix Miata 08 Oct '11

08 Oct '11

On 2011/10/08 05:06 (GMT) Jim Henderson composed: > On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 00:42:52 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> Needing useful help on the printing problem should have been the sole >> point anyone discussed on the general opensuse list, where the >> discussion of the trouble with the forum page constituted no more than a >> reason for asking for a plan to solve the printing problem itself. > Respectfully, if that's the discussion you wanted, you should have > limited your respective inquiries to the appropriate lists. It's > generally considered bad form to combine multiple queries into a single > message, post the message to multiple venues, and expect the readers to > sort out what you wanted discussed in which venue. I'm fully aware limiting to one list is the normal protocol. What happened was I anticipated what actually happened, which is to say no response whatsoever on the virtually unused opensuse-web list (5 posts in September, 5 in August, 2 in July, 5 in June, 7 in May), and I didn't feel like writing entirely to the wind. Some reading these lists actually know how to limit responses to topical issues. >> Of course it can't be reproduced without it. It only happens because >> it's impossible to get user CSS to work right when it has to fight >> against a 150k mountain of site CSS. > Then that should've been the focus of what you were complaining about, > rather than complaining about a self-inflicted problem It was only secondarily self-inflicted. The primary reason for the problem with the forum was needing defense at all, the offensive site CSS, the reason for posting anything at all on the opensuse-web list. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] help forum no help getting printer to print
by Felix Miata 07 Oct '11

07 Oct '11

On 2011/10/06 17:34 (GMT) Jim Henderson composed: > On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:09:39 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> After seeing "unable to open listen socket for address ::1:631 - Address >> family not supported by protocol" in /var/log/cups/error_log, Google >> told me goto >> http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-boot-log… >> and http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:GDI_Printers to figure out why I can't >> print with my Canon GDI, but instead of help I just see the incompetent >> results of incompetent site styles: >> http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/opensuseforumsmess01.jpg That screenshot is now available at https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=454976 >> Can someone please fix the openSUSE web sites to use browser defaults >> instead of mousetype so that this kind of mess doesn't keep happening? > If you can give us steps to reproduce, we'll look at it. It's not > helpful to use charged words like "incompetent", BTW. Nobody has ever > reported seeing something like this (that I can recall), and we have > thousands of users who use the site without issues. On 2011/10/06 22:13 (GMT) Jim Henderson composed: >> Screenshot was yesterday on 12.1B1, but general behavior is longstanding >> <https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=203468 >> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=646418>. Details to follow >> when time permits, as so much has been lost trying to make print work in >> order that other projects can escape logjam. > I don't have access to that bug, but just to be clear, I'm talking about > the display issue you saw in the forums, not the printing issue. Since That's why I opened this thread in the opensuse-web mailing list as well, but no one has replied there as yet. > I'm staff on the forums, I can try to get that addressed if I can > reproduce the issue. Those two bugs are web site bugs. If you have power to alter the site, then whoever has the power to give you access to those two bugs needs to do so. They contain the foundation of my complaint. Incompetence was a word choice that applies to the web generally, not specifically to opensuse.org. Competently designed web sites don't induce users to use heroic measures to compensate for stupid and rude site styles, such as those described in those two bugs and in http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/SUSE/css.txt which contains the entirety of the highly burdensome 155k+ of opensuse.org CSS saved to disk as web page complete with Gecko from http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-boot-log…. https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=454975 shows what 408396-cups-deamon-not-accessable.html looks like on one of my systems without any rudeness countermeasures applied. The dominant text size is a small fraction of the UA's UI text size, which is a smaller size than the UA's default size, for a net result of painful to use, if not totally illegible. My need to return to various opensuse.org pages on a recurring basis makes temporary defenses like minimum text size and zoom worse than sub-optimal. So, I use site specific user styles as a long term defense mechanism. The current version of user CSS applied specifically to the site consists of http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/SUSE/opensusebase.css and http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/SUSE/opensusemb.css, in conjunction with my generic user CSS at http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/SUSE/userContent.css, and are necessary to have a chance to reproduce. Reproduction should not be necessary to correction, as no user defenses would be necessary at all if both those two bugs and the broader problem they describe were fixed and remained so across site facelifts. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] help forum no help getting printer to print
by Felix Miata 06 Oct '11

06 Oct '11

After seeing "unable to open listen socket for address ::1:631 - Address family not supported by protocol" in /var/log/cups/error_log, Google told me goto http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-boot-log… and http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:GDI_Printers to figure out why I can't print with my Canon GDI, but instead of help I just see the incompetent results of incompetent site styles: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/opensuseforumsmess01.jpg Can someone please fix the openSUSE web sites to use browser defaults instead of mousetype so that this kind of mess doesn't keep happening? I've been trying off & on in 11.4 & 12.1 since last winter to make my IP printer work, but it refuses to print except for the YaST2 test page, or PDFs from Okular. All other apps tried, and this is on multiple puters, fail to even wake up the printer, much less print. Until the last driver update, the printer would wake up, but display an error instead of printing. Apps tried are mostly various Gwenview, Firefox, SeaMonkey & Konqueror versions. Months ago I filed https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=683476 and later http://www.cups.org/str.php?L3916 in hopes of eventually being able to print in something newer than 11.2. http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Cups/gx280/121/ contains logs from today's attempts on one machine with 12.1B1. I opened the printer's IP in Konqueror, but nothing there seems able to help with this. IPV6 is disabled in YaST, and cmdline includes ipv6.disable=1. /etc/hosts includes 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost. How do I get my printer to print from apps other than Okular in 11.4 and/or 12.1? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] berlios shutdown - move to gitorious
by Thomas Schmidt 05 Oct '11

05 Oct '11

As Berlios.de will be shutting down all services at the end of the year, we need to move out our infrastructure and translation repositories from there. I went through the infrastructure projects, and migrated the active ones to gitorious: www.opensuse.org frontpage: git@gitorious.org:opensuse/www_opensuse_org.git wiki: git@gitorious.org:opensuse/wiki_opensuse_org.git shop.opensuse.org: git@gitorious.org:opensuse/shop_opensuse_org.git party: git@gitorious.org:opensuse/party_o_o.git news.opensuse.org: git@gitorious.org:opensuse/news_o_o.git lizards.opensuse.org: git@gitorious.org:opensuse/lizards_o_o.git help.opensuse.org: git@gitorious.org:opensuse/help_o_o.git apparmor.opensuse.org: git@gitorious.org:opensuse/apparmor_o_o.git There are some folders where I'm not sure if they are in use, and where the owners would like to put them: license.o.o download.o.o documentation/ tools/ Greetings! -- Thomas Schmidt (tom [at] opensuse.org) openSUSE Boosters Team "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (11.03.1952 - 11.05.2001) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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