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Re: [suse-security] "RTFM" as an answer for OT questions (was: nmap)
  • From: In Search of Security <security@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 14:50:28 -0400
  • Message-id: <3CFFAEF4.5020502@xxxxxxxxxxx>
I think its for the owner of the list to decide whether a topic is OT or not. Any subscriber or someone posting messages here has no right to say rude things to anyone. I am surprised how some people (who are just subscribers like others) start acting like the czars of those mailing lists and message boards.
If the owner of this list (ie Suse) decides a post to be off topic, they can simply tell the poster. They are well-informed people and know about their network's capacity to handle these posts.
Anyone else who cannot answer the poster's question, should keep their rude mouth shut.
These are my thoughts and I do not expect everyone to agree with me.
I will not be posting any replies to this post as that will be OT. Any angry soul can contact me directly on my email

Gerhard Sittig wrote:

[ yes, it's sad -- I'm contributing to the off topic thread
in the hope to see these things reduced in the future ... ]

On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 13:01 +0100, arawak wrote:

I was only asking for help, but some people don't seem to realise that
not all have the same experience and need things explaining a little bit
better than the man page..

You missed the most important part: You haven't been rejected
for asking something. You have been rejected for asking
something _unrelated_ in _this_ list. This was done to actually
*help* all the list members (keep the articles on topic, keep
the volume "managable" -- no I won't say "low"). If there
wasn't a line drawn we soon would discuss _anything_
here making the list useless and merely wasteful. Please
reread the answers and rethink your "they told me I would
be dumb" impression. Learn to differ between a "f**k off"
and a "not here please, go _there_ instead"! Remember that
political correctness is only about being kind and not really
about being friendly or even helpful. Telling you what to read
on your own or which field to research is more help than holding
your hands and walking you through a single task when you wouldn't
learn a thing in this process (and come back to cry for help
with the next little problem). Should you need this kind of hand
holding go and get a support contract but don't try to (ab)use
other people's precious spare time. Please consider this side
of the medaille and you suddenly know where certain reactions
come from.

PS: Of course should the subject's acronym be expanded to
"R *this* FM" for being helpful. But that's what we all know.
It's just that some people are scared by the words "please do
your homework before using others' resources" when they before
were being spoon fed. :)

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Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@xxxxxxx

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