People, can we please stop this thread before it gets out of hand and someone gets really pissed off? To those that have emailed me personally and asked that I do Draconian things like unsubscribe people who have signatures they find offensive, etc. please stop--I won't do it for reasons that I hopefully don't need to go into. Which is not the same thing as saying I agree or disagree with anyone's signature. I'd be writing the same thing if ESR starting posting to this list with his seemingly bottomless collection collection wacko gun nut quotes and someone complained. If you absolutely must use a signature, please be courteous and use sigdashes so that people can easily strip the signatures off. For those who don't know, signature dashes are just a set of two dashes with a space after them: "^-- $" A reasonable mail reader will have a feature that remove everything from the signature to the EOF. It's also possible to do this with procmail and sed, perl, Intercal, whatever if you choose to use an unreasonable mail reader. In any case, it's a polite thing to do and will most likely not ruin the important/funny/insightful/witty/clever/informative message you feel compelled to transmit via your signature. For more information please see http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.sig.etiquette.html Thank you and have a nice day, -- -ckm