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Re: [opensuse-project] openSUSE Project Name Change Vote - Results
* Simon Lees <sflees@xxxxxxx> [11-08-19 18:15]:

On 11/9/19 3:19 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Axel Braun <axel.braun@xxxxxx> [11-08-19 10:10]:
Hello Christian,

Am Freitag, 8. November 2019, 15:50:02 CET schrieb Christian Imhorst:
thank you! Then we had an electoral participation of 54%. Mmmh, not much
but expected I suppose.

Vote participations are always a topics for it a political
vote or
a name change vote. IMO, if you have the option to vote, it is a implicit
to do so. If you cant vote, like in many countries around the world, you
much more feel the wish to vote and influence the result. Every vote

The result is that 84% of the voters want to keep openSUSE, and this is a
clear vote to my understanding. So we (the board) will continue with the
steps in direction of a legal structure for the openSUSE project.

Personally I feel that the result is 'good', as openSUSE is a strong and
known brand.

while I personally want to keep the present "openSUSE" moniker, basing
anything on the vote results is critically flawed as Carlos and I mentioned
earlier and in related threads. Those choosing not to vote as no
agreeable option was presented skews the results and no-one can determine
the true wants of the community. The *only* thing you can report is that
OF THE PEOPLE VOTING, 84% opted to keep openSUSE. you would get a similar
and worthless result if only three poeple voted and two opted to keep the

While the running of this vote had some issues, I don't think any of
them being handled differently would have lead to 180 more people voting
or changing there vote which is around what would have been needed for
it to be close. But I agree if the vote was much closer it would be hard
to pull meaning out of it.

As a member of the board, I have to say I still have no idea how you
expect me to interpret "abstain" or "neither". I am only really
interested in the change vs no change as long as we got atleast the
usual number of voters. if we were 100 or so down on what we see at
board elections then yeah i'd have more questions.

to determine per cent for or another you ignore the possibility that there
might be a third option (or more) which is not presented. anyone deciding
neither of the presented options as desirable will not be counted as
voting or interested. that skews the per cent for or against, ie:
120 vote for
50 vote against
20 abstain as no desired option presented

which gives: 63% for 120/190
rather than: 71% for 120/170

to be clear, the final outcome of the vote is as I desire but may not be
representative of the community as a whole.

(paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri
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