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Re: [opensuse-project] Re: openSUSE Project Name Change Vote
* Simon Lees <sflees@xxxxxxx> [10-13-19 03:44]:


On 10/12/19 7:19 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Ish Sookun <ish.sookun@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [10-11-19 13:52]:
Hi Patrick,

On 10/12/19 12:31 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
and how are you tallying the "Abstention" votes w/o and indication that
"Abstention" is desired rather than "just not voting".

What I meant is that the act of not voting in itself is abstention.

but it is not recorded and indiscernible from not voting. there is a
difference from abstention and not voting and they are not equal. one
would have to know the choice was made and not just failing to vote.


Given that all our ballots are private and no one can see who voted for what
I don't think abstain really means anything, its not like Australia where it
is compulsory to turn up and vote.

Having abstain doesn't really tell us anything other then making the result
more complex and giving people something to argue over. Personally if we
went back and added it i'd just ignore it.

We also have to remember that starting a new vote would cause some confusion
and we would have to work hard to ensure that people who already voted don't
get confused and not vote because they think they already have.

While the current vote isn't perfect I think that starting another vote now
will just make things worse. The board has made it clear that we are after
an indication of whether people would like the openSUSE name changed or not
so that we can take that data forward into our future decision making and
will try our best to implement that solution, with that in mind while the
current naming isn't the best we had it does ask that question.

imnsho, abstention indicates the provided options are not viable to the
voter where not voting indicates a lack of interest or not knowing there
is a vote. then a large number of abstentions would indicate the outcome
of the vote was seriously flawed.

and I understand completely the problems with leadership by committee but
an uninformed vote and/or a indecisive ballot do not provide information
worthy of action.

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