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Re: [opensuse-project] Project name and logo discussion

On śro, Jun 5, 2019 at 6:28 PM, Xaver Hellauer <> wrote:

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On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 5:31 PM, Ish Sookun <ish.sookun@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 6/3/19 3:53 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

> I really was upset when it was changed from SuSE and again SUSE, but
> understand the need to move to openSUSE. I believe the effort needed to
> resolve all the necessary issues is much better expended on further
> development of our distribution. and Leap and Tumbleweed should remain
> distinctive sub "brand" names for openSUSE.

How about having a foundation name different as the distro name and we
get to keep openSUSE? Something like:

| Example Foundation |
| openSUSE |
+------+ +------------+
| Leap | | Tumbleweed |
+------+ +------+-----+
+-------+ +---------+
| Kubic | | MicroOS |
+-------+ +---------+

How about just giving a new name to the foundation loosely tied to the existing brand (e.g. Squamata Foundation) and just dropping the "openSUSE" without replacement. The distributions do have names already. So basically "openSUSE Tumbleweed" becomes "Tumbleweed" and "openSUSE Leap" becomes "Leap" with highly visible release names (maybe different lizards) like Debian's and Ubuntu's releases. In my opinion this would be beneficial to marketing. Everybody cares about "Disco Dingo", but "15.2" sounds quite boring.
Dropping the "openSUSE" has the following benefits:
* Seemingly cutting ties to a Novell/Microsoft Deal/"Corporate Overlord" past without creating "SUSE is abandonning openSUSE" FUD.

I do wonder if that is over, it has been more than 10 years already for
some of those events.

* Tumbleweed and Leap are recognizable brands with very different audiences, they don't need an umbrella name (like Fedora and CentOS don't have one either).

Well, in case of Fedora distros, there is Fedora Workstation, Fedora Server,
Fedora CoreOS, Fedora IoT and Fedora Silverblue (not to count DE spins), when
people are talking about "Fedora" they usually mean Workstation/Spins/Server.
Fedora is very much an umbrella name for a bunch of different distributions,
just like openSUSE. We do have much higher chance of having distro names
separate from the project name though, because the names aren't as generic as
Fedora's. As an example Tumbleweed, MicroOS and Kubic already have parts of
branding that don't mention openSUSE, and Leap 15.2 might too if I'm motivated
enough to get that going in the coming year.

* Not being called anything *SUSE* might help making Packman (or at least some of the packman packages) more official, which would help making it more easy to install them (Ubuntu-easy, not the existing "easier than before, but still not really noob-friendly). Mageia for example got rid of the PLF repo, when they were no longer Mandrake/Mandriva branded.

Not being associated with a corporation, and being a registered foundation
does not free us from obeying the patent law, I don't really see how that
would work...

LCP [Stasiek]

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