On 7 January 2017 at 23:09, Administrator
The discussion is about consensus. openSUSE is a collaborative effort not a fiefdom. For matters such as this I’m happy that there is engaged discussion and I wish more people were contributing. If you wish to help, you could devise a more efficient way to discuss these matters and assess the support for the various competing proposals.
The ‘resolution’ you propose doesn’t have the support of the majority of members, so it’s no resolution. The resolution which does have support is to leave it as is.
You seem to have mistaken openSUSE with a democracy openSUSE is a collaborative effort, a collaborative meritocratic effort. It is not the majority of members, or contributors, or mailinglist posters who decide. It is a project driven by "Those who do, decide" The only majority opinion that is decisive is the majority opinion of those who put code to submissions and actually submit them. In this case, this is a majority opinion of 1 to 0 (with the supporting acceptance of one more who accepted the proposed change) If there was a case of contributors pushing in two different directions, yes, sure, consensus is great, the Board is also there as an escalation point of consensus cannot be found, and membership-wide voting is always an option if the Board cannot tie-break a situation. But pushing for consensus first is backwards and unproductive - do first, debate when blocked by others doing differently. I've written more about how this project works here, might be an interesting read for you - https://rootco.de/2016-04-03-opensuse-and-you/ As for your claim that the 'majority' wish things to be left 'as is' - many the people in this thread who were supporting keeping things 'as is' were doing so with justification including claims that changing things would be "killing the usability of the current versions". These justifications were grounded on false assumptions. The change I submitted (and has been accepted) removes the non_oss pattern from the default install. That's all The non_oss pattern is still available on the media The non_oss repository is still present and enabled by default The non_oss repository does NOT contain any software essential to the installation or the general smooth operation of a users machine The non_oss pattern did NOT install any software by default. In short, the non_oss pattern did nothing besides give people the impression that openSUSE forced non-oss software onto peoples machines by default, when the reality is that we did not. My submission clears up that problem. Now users can pick the pattern only if they want it, just as they have been able to pick the individual software from the non-oss repo. Changing anything else might not be worth pursuing. It isn't for me, the technical issue that led to misconceptions has been cleared up. If someone else disagrees and thinks something else needs to be done, I look forward to seeing their submissions. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org