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Re: [opensuse-project] openSUSE 13.1 - Preparation for Evergreen
On Monday 14 December 2015 09.27:10 Michal Kubecek wrote:
On Monday 14 of December 2015 09:09:08 jdd wrote:
Le 14/12/2015 07:55, Michal Kubecek a écrit :
Not really useful, I would say. If you want to share your
repositories, I would rather suggest "zypper lr -u" or (better)
"LANG=C zypper lr -u".
I don't see really the use of the -u,

IMHO the URL is better identifier of a repository than its name. With an
URL, anyone can check what is in the repository and where it is. For
basic repositories, names can be used too but for additional ones, much
less so. For instance, this is what my list looks like:

# | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh
---+---------------------+---------------------+---------+--------
1 | debug | debug | Yes | No
2 | fate | fate | Yes | No
3 | fb30 | fb30 | Yes | No
4 | fb30-ipv6 | fb30-ipv6 | No | No
5 | games | games | Yes | No
6 | k312 | k312 | No | No
7 | kde | kde | Yes | No
8 | mk-fun | mk-fun | Yes | No
9 | mk-private | mk-private | Yes | No
10 | mk-utils | mk-utils | Yes | No
11 | nonoss | nonoss | Yes | No
12 | oss | oss | Yes | No
13 | source | source | Yes | No
14 | suse-ca | suse-ca | Yes | No
15 | update | update | Yes | No
16 | update-debug | update-debug | Yes | No
17 | update-debug-nonoss | update-debug-nonoss | Yes | No
18 | update-nonoss | update-nonoss | Yes | No

I know what is "fb30" but for anyone else,


http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/mkubecek:/firebird30/openSUSE_13.1/

would be much more useful.

but do we want to really discuss Evergreen practical continuation,
like I do, or discuss political interest like it started to be?

I would prefer the former - and I strongly hope that the views presented
by Richard Brown in this discussion are only his personal and do not
represent the official position of openSUSE project.

Michal Kubeček



Ok let's have fun with repo list, this is what I'm using normally on one of the
main 13.1
server.
LANG=C zypper lr -ud

The most important here are the kernel-evergreen :-)
which work damn well since 3 months I'm using it.
It fix the non-patched since too long time stock 13.1 kernel.

php, mail, security are all important. But if suddenly the repo will
disapear, I'm able to fix myself a branch:checkout at a given version
and use the Discontinued_13.1

For sure, having in those repo, evergreen directly available will be
more confortable.

This server will have a retirement or will be upgraded to 42.1
Perhaps Eastern or during summer break (not broke :-))

I've already done, several upgrade from 13.1 to 42.1 with success.
In the following weeks, I will try on more complicated server
(kerberos,ldap,samba,etc)

From my point of view, as simple contributor, evergreen lover, and
admin sys, I wouldn't be offended if 13.1 leave earth on November 2016.

The fact that Leap is here, change the game a bit. Hopefully.
As Board member, I can only encourage people that want something, start
learning contributing, start small and grow, and learn how
sometimes it's tricky to find the right balance between technical constraint
and user's desire.

Don't be blurred by the facilities we have (obs, osc, etc).
Maintaining whatever software is time consuming, and we all want
sometimes do something else on Week-End.

openSUSE is a voluntary based effort, with the help of some commercial
entities. (Read it as : people are offered by their employer to spend
some of their paid time, to help on openSUSE project)

I'm one of those. But it doesn't mean none of my free time is used
to do the same thing. By passion ? Perhaps, but my main motivation
is to have tools that works.


--

Bruno Friedmann
Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch

openSUSE Member & Board, fsfe fellowship
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# | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh | Priority
| Type | URI
| Service
---+----------------------+----------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
1 | bareos | bareos | Yes | Yes | 99
| rpm-md |
https://wan.ioda.net/mirror/download.bareos.com/bareos/release/14.2/openSUSE_13.1/
|
2 | debug-oss | debug-oss | Yes | Yes | 99
| yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/13.1/repo/oss/
|
3 | debug-update-non-oss | debug-update-non-oss | No | Yes | 99
| NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/13.1-non-oss/
|
4 | debug-update-oss | debug-update-oss | Yes | Yes | 99
| rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/13.1/
|
5 | devel:perl | devel:perl | Yes | Yes | 110
| rpm-md |
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/perl/openSUSE_13.1
|
6 | kernel-evergreen | kernel-evergreen | Yes | Yes | 80
| rpm-md |
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/mkubecek:/evergreen-13.1/openSUSE_13.1/
|
7 | non-oss | non-oss | Yes | Yes | 99
| yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/13.1/repo/non-oss/
|
8 | oss | oss | Yes | Yes | 99
| yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/13.1/repo/oss/
|
9 | php | php | Yes | Yes | 91
| rpm-md |
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/php/openSUSE_13.1
|
10 | repo-source | openSUSE-13.1-Source | No | Yes | 99
| NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/13.1/repo/oss/
|
11 | security | security | Yes | Yes | 98
| rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/security/openSUSE_13.1/
|
12 | security-bf | security-bf | Yes | Yes | 96
| rpm-md |
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/bruno_friedmann:/branches:/security/openSUSE_13.1/
|
13 | security-netfilter | security-netfilter | Yes | Yes | 90
| rpm-md |
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/security:/netfilter/openSUSE_13.1/
|
14 | server-mail | server-mail | Yes | Yes | 99
| rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/mail/openSUSE_13.1
|
15 | server-monitoring | server-monitoring | Yes | Yes | 99
| rpm-md |
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/monitoring/openSUSE_13.1
|
16 | update | update-oss | Yes | Yes | 99
| rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/13.1/
|
17 | update-non-oss | update-non-oss | Yes | Yes | 99
| rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/13.1-non-oss/
|
18 | virtualization | virtualization | Yes | Yes | 99
| rpm-md |
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Virtualization/openSUSE_13.1/
|
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