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Re: [opensuse-project] [Announcement] SUSE Release SLE Sources to openSUSE Project

On 05/01/2015 09:46 PM, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am 01.05.2015 um 14:08 schrieb Jan Engelhardt:
On Friday 2015-05-01 13:20, Stephan Kulow wrote:

Am 01.05.2015 um 11:34 schrieb Jan Engelhardt:
In particular though, regarding package selection, I do have
the following constraints:

- no downgrades relative to the versions that already were present
in 13.2, even if that means that converging to openSUSE:Essence
takes longer.
I am not going to accept the backstep from kernel 3.16 to 3.12 :-)
It's a hard to swallow pill, but the question is basically: for how long
can *you* maintain 3.16? doesn't for you nor does SUSE.
Before it's misunderstood: the 3.16 kernel in 13.2 is maintained as
long as 13.2 is - replace 3.16 with 4.$SOMERANDOMNUMBER in my
argument :)
The point is that there are features that you cannot backstep from.
For example, says about 3.16: "In this release, XFS
has added a btree that tracks free inodes. This feature adds does not
change existing on-disk structures, but adds a new one that must
remain consistent with the inode allocation btree; for this reason
older kernels will only be able to mount read-only filesystems with
the free inode btree feature."

Whatever kernel is picked for 13.3, if it is less than 3.16, people
could run into a problem for something that worked before. I have not
found the new flags on my XFS superblocks yet, but that does not have
to mean anything.

Can we agree on:
13.3 kernel needs to be able to cope with filesystems created
with 13.2

and leave out version numbers?

Greetings, Stephan

Out of interest would the maintenance burden be much less if openSUSE 13.3 used one of the upstream LTS kernels, then only applied the SUSE specific patches (as opposed to bugfix / driver updates)?
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