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Re: [opensuse-project] [Announcement] SUSE Release SLE Sources to openSUSE Project
On Friday 2015-05-01 13:20, Stephan Kulow wrote:

Am 01.05.2015 um 11:34 schrieb Jan Engelhardt:
In particular though, regarding package selection, I do have
the following constraints:

- no downgrades relative to the versions that already were present
in 13.2, even if that means that converging to openSUSE:Essence
takes longer.
I am not going to accept the backstep from kernel 3.16 to 3.12 :-)

It's a hard to swallow pill, but the question is basically: for how long
can *you* maintain 3.16? doesn't for you nor does SUSE.
Before it's misunderstood: the 3.16 kernel in 13.2 is maintained as
long as 13.2 is - replace 3.16 with 4.$SOMERANDOMNUMBER in my
argument :)

The point is that there are features that you cannot backstep from.
For example, says about 3.16: "In this release, XFS
has added a btree that tracks free inodes. This feature adds does not
change existing on-disk structures, but adds a new one that must
remain consistent with the inode allocation btree; for this reason
older kernels will only be able to mount read-only filesystems with
the free inode btree feature."

Whatever kernel is picked for 13.3, if it is less than 3.16, people
could run into a problem for something that worked before. I have not
found the new flags on my XFS superblocks yet, but that does not have
to mean anything.

- kernel and glibc shall be refreshed for releases.

Why? Any technical reasons or just so?

No technical reasons, just practical ones. Sometimes there is new
clunky hardware that needs something that is not 2 years old. Or
because they made working with btrfs more endurable (fast device
replacement in e.g. 3.19) for everyone.
I kind of like how gcc does its multiversioning: it allows you to
optionally install a newer one _from the same repository_. That one
may be an unmaintained Tech Preview, but that would be good enough
for me. The only issue is that kernel-*s share the same package
name while gcc does not, so that has some implications how OBS
selects them for build :/
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