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Re: [opensuse-project] openSUSE 2016: taking a picture of openSUSE today
On 26.11.2013 20:38, agustin benito bethencourt wrote:
Hi,

what is the purpose of this now? What is openSUSE "2016" now that haven't started with 2014?

It seems like the whole text is trying to interpret some numbers. Well, I know, people like to do that to congratulate themselves how cool they did in the past or also maybe that the situation is not so bad how people might think. Only a question of interpretation of course.
I don't like that (my personal 'problem') but I also do not think that it is overly helpful for openSUSE. Numbers, wow, how exciting ;-)

A look in the future would mean for me that we come to concrete steps on how we can work towards our targets that we discussed already a couple of times like
- We did again a very good distro 13.1 even with ARM support etc. Exciting!
- We wanted to tell the world more about that, better marketing. Well, not so sure if we were perfect here. Steps to improve?
- Our target group were defined as "experienced users", ie. developers etc. We came to that after long and exhausting discussions. What can we do to a) make 13.2 even better for these people and b) let them know that we're their project?
- A lot of people think that we need LTS releases. Surprise, there is one, its called Evergreen! Do we have to do something to help/improve there, do we need better communication?
- Make the project more fun, more exciting, so that people like to contribute.

SHARE YOUR OWN PICTURE

Let me propose you some questions:

1.- What other variables we should put in place to create an accurate picture
of the current state of the project?
None from my POV (again, I know that might be wrong, but that's me.) Go away there. The current state is not so important for us that we should spend energy on that now, we rather should plan exciting stuff that moves us forward. IMO we know our status well enough.

2.- What is the perception you think others have from the project?
I don't want to discourage, but what I often hear is: "Oh yes, openSUSE, is it still existing?" Answer: "Yes, and it has everything in place for you, even more than you think, and it works really slick!" Q: "Yes, and what was exciting in the latest release apart from updates?" A: "Hrmmmm... There should be a Wiki page somewhere." Q: "How long is it supported than?" A: "18 month." Q: "Oh, why that short?" A: "Because you wanna update by than anyway and your crappy notebook will be dead than anyway." A: "Yes, but no, thanks, I stay with Ubuntu, that's cool!"

3.- What is your perception, your picture?
I have the impression that we lost too many people who actually _do_ stuff instead of talking. The ones who are here and do stuff need more support. Not numbers, not talking, just together: Get Shit Done! Have more fun!

regards,
Klaas


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