On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 04:43:10PM +0000, Nelson Marques wrote:
2012/2/12 Lars Müller
: On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 07:02:31PM -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:55:58 +0100 Wolfgang Rosenauer
wrote: What would be the correct list for you? I don't see an obvious candidate.
Permanent solution: evergreen@opensuse.org
No. As said before no further new lists without the proofen need. And need is proofen by traffic. And not by the loudness of the requests.
According to that view, there would be no grounds for opensuse-foundation to be created, it's easy for everyone to see... I'm pretty sure that more example can be found if you just look into: "And need is profen by traffic".
So where do we stand? Are really 1st class community citizens and 2nd class community citizens ?
Please enlighten us...
This is no question of first and second class. More than 80 lists isn't good to a project. Check how many of these lists had close to no traffic in the last three months or half year, Then you might get the direction of my suggestion. Or check a project like Samba. How are we able to handle it with only two lists since so many years? And to my negative surprise I've seen we now have a dedicated opensuse-arm list too. This is anything else than good to the project I fear. Cause more and more lists cause more fragmentation of the communication.
Please count the lists openSUSE already is offering at lists.openSUSE.org They had been more than 80 last time I counted them.
Between a project that wants to earn it's own lifestream and vitallity and a few defunct lists that are on that webpage, I'm not really sure if you are acting to protect or to harm openSUSE with such claims.
It is to protect and to focus. Look, I'm not going to subscribe to any additional openSUSE list. I'm already on to many.
(with additional bonus; it will be first list in recent times without 2 times opensuse in its name)
Temporary: Just plain opensuse@opensuse.org as it is anyway used for support. The tag should be just [Evergreen], not EG and any other inventive way to obscure actual name and make people learn 2 things instead of one.
Why not using something short and easy as EG as prefix?
Please alwas keep KISS in mind. Keep It Simple Stupid. ;)
That's what you are trying to label us at with this email...
Are you trying to turn my message in a different direction as it was intended? The goal is to keep the communication focussed. Not to label any here as stupid or anything else.
you just assumed everyone is stupid... and people will be stupid not to raise arms against your arguments because they make no sense... For them to make sense then the opensuse-foundation list should never existed because it's traffic is an embarassment to this community (there's others, that one was just one first I remembered).
Well, even for this topic the basic mailing list rules apply. Why should there be any difference?
Thanks for showing us a bit more on how openSUSE is run by SUSE :)
My opinion has close to nothing to do with the opinion of SUSE. This is my personal view and in this particular case also written in my private time. Thanks, Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany