Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Wednesday 15 June 2011 09:08:20 Per Jessen wrote:
Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
Hi, <snip> Sorry, that's apparently how the openSUSE community works - if we're not happy with it, it's up to us to change it. And I don't think it's better done by not discussing changes at all.
I'm sure that is not what Alberto meant.
I wonder what the value of this meta-discussion is. I don't see how we have to ask for discussion?
The maintainers of systemd and the maintainers of sysvinit want to have systemd. That's quite clear. Nobody has stepped up with an alternative proposal and offered to do better. So the decision has been made implicitly by those who do the work. That is how a FOSS community works.
Every now and then I see references to "Product Management" - don't they have a say?
Anyone can step in and change the outcome and that has always been the case. I agree with Alberto that you seem to want to discuss everything. Is that just to wave your flag around and keep others from working?!?
Ridiculous suggestion. You misunderstand, I have no interest in discussing everything.
This also keeps active people, those who want to see things done and not over-talked, away from the mailing lists, with the most evident consequence that lists become less useful. I'm sorry, but how do those "active people" know what to get done if they don't discuss it with the community? (obviously there is lots of stuff that does not warrant much discussion).
"discussion" is useless if it's for the sake of discussion.
Certainly. Maybe we should have said "deliberation" instead, as I think Guido Berhoerster also did initially. /Per -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org