On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 09:04:15PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
Greg KH wrote:
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:31:45AM +0200, jdd wrote:
Le 11/06/2011 10:49, Per Jessen a écrit :
Same here. I would also like to say that I think going for systemd as default in 12.1 is very much bleeding edge, and maybe not entirely in line with our strategy.
By the time 12.1 comes out, we would not be the only distro shipping this, so it's not that "bleeding edge" at all.
systemd probably not, but our implementation/integration certainly.
And that is exactly what is being worked on here. How do you expect this to happen, unless people do the work? Are they not to do the work until it is magically done already for them?
After all, judging by e.g. Frederics proposed plan as well as previous discussions, we're not exactly talking plug-compatible here.
What do you mean by "plug"?
Given that our strategy says we aim for a "stable core", changing the default for a significant core component with a bare minimum of testing doesn't seem quite the right approach.
So that means we can never change anything in the core at all? That's nonsense.
I had many difficulties understanding inits, I'm not that impatient to learn yet an other tool (this and grub2 makes it rather frightening :-)
It should "just work" so there should not be anything you have to learn about, right?
Two many "should"s in that paragraph. IMHO.
Ok, how about I say, "it will just work so there is nothing you have to learn about". Unless you want to take advantage of the new tools and control systemd offers you. You can learn about those if you want to, but for everyone else, it will "just work". If not, file a bug. greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org