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On Monday, April 11, 2011 01:08:42 PM you wrote:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Drew Adams <Druonysus@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Monday, April 11, 2011 09:32:35 AM Kim Leyendecker wrote:
Am 11.04.2011 11:13, schrieb Rajko M.:
This may not be a problem at home where you have thick download pipe
and hours to do installation and updates, but at friends site shorter
is better. You come with patched DVD and in one hour you are done,
including first steps how to use. No distribution offers this now,
and as they don't have OBS they will need some time to catch up.

Well, this can you have with *SUSE Studio*. Just download the latest
packages, create your own repository or load the rpms on a archive up
and tick them for being used for your appliance. Then you create a live
CD/DVD and go to your friend and install it there.

I donĀ“t see any problem in this

PS: Just a suggestion: Test the appliance in a virtual machine and
_then_ go to the friend and install it there.

So in other-words Kim... this is something that is easy to do? If so, it
makes the point that, if it is so easy to do, why would we not implement
this idea so the community can benafit from someone going through the
process you outlined. Would there be a better way other than that to
achive this idea with KIWI or any other tool to streamline the process?
Drew Adams

I have openSUSE on several servers. I never even consider upgrading
them in the first 2 months of a release, so I certainly understand the
difference between the day zero release and a day 60 release +

And for server use, I don't like even the window of time between
performing a baseline upgrade and when I get the patches applied.

So, I for one like the idea of doing at a minimum a major release
every 8-months and a sub-release 2 months later.

But I'd be happy with:

11.4 - March '11
11.4.1 - May '11
12.1 - Nov '11
12.1.1 - Dec '12


And if that could be handled with minimal manpower, I for one would
find myself keeping "x.x.1" releases in my physical archives, but
tossing the x.x releases.

So while I like the basic idea Drew has a lot, I'd like to keep to
exactly the current numbering for "major releases" and add a 3rd digit
for sub-releases.



I think that sounds like a fine implementation of the idea as well...
especially since there seem to be some that really like the other numbering
that was decided upon before my proposal. I do think that if we were to only
do one patched "sub-release" it should be 4 months after the major release.
This way it would be in the middle of our 8 month cycle and would include more
patches... but either way is good.
Drew Adams

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