Le 06/08/2010 09:00, Martin Schlander a écrit :
Fredag den 30. juli 2010 19:31:58 skrev Pavol Rusnak:
== openSUSE - For the productive poweruser ==
after rereading all the strategy, I think what is wrong in yours is.. the name :-). This was said already, but I don't remember a good proposal (I didn't reread all the mailing list, I may have missed something). I fear than for many people, the "power user" is somebody else. Better should be "curious user" "freemind user", "active user", I mean any user that don't use his computer in the stock configuration (as opposit of what my sister do, who don't know what is a program or an application!), but also anybody that have a friend or relative that can do this for him. may be simply "productive user" (without power) is enough.
who will do the work?
As this strategy deliberately tries to be quite close to the current reality of things, the strategy shouldn't require much extra work - if any.
if I understood well this strategy, it's very near from what we do if not identical
* Differentiation from Fedora, Mandriva and Ubuntu.
may be a more clear goal (isn't it the goal of the present discussion?), because I don't think *any* linux distro can be used by anybody. Notice that this problem is mainly because no linux distribution is installed in the computer by the vendor. Because most linux distro pre-installed should be easier to use than windows (IMHO)
And I personally believe there's a big _craving_ out there, for a gratis, home-user distro that actually tries to be productive and professional. I see a lot of experienced, highly technical Linux people switching to OSX in the last couple of years - and I think a big part of the reason for that is that they don't find any other productive (desktop) Unix.
I really don't think that opensource programmers can cope with the Apple philosophy! And the future of Apple is Istore, not Mac, and closed applications (tighly closed)
what may openSUSE lose because of it?
We might lose some of our Joe Sixpack type users. I don't think we have too many of those to begin with
seeing the Linux % in the market, none. At least linux users *try* to become a power user :-) , and since this strategy is pretty close to the
status quo, I don't think that many existing users would be lost.
exactly
We might lose some of the contributors whose motivation is spreading Linux to as many people as possible and competing with Ubuntu for marketshare.
I really never seen what ubuntu have that we don't. Except if they are breaking the Debian licence. And I tryed to become an Ubuntu user, liking they LTS system. I never could :-(
We also might lose people who are all about exciting bleeding edge and unstable things.
do we need to have the very last kde or gnome? I beg we should drop this or leave it to studio. Bleeding edge people can use factory :-). But we shouldn't leave behind too many old hardware, many power users are not money rich :-( so it looks like your proposal can be merged with the status quo one :-) that said, if this proposal is finally retained (may be after some merge with others, not only the satus quo), wil will have to add some "perspective to the future" For example, I hope than some device will compete against the completely closed Ipad. We should have some manpower dedicated at lurking on the subject to be ready to go if ever openSUSE on a tablet could run. Same for openSUSE on a phone. this market will largely overhelm the current pc market soon or later, making all the PC obsolete jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org