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Re: [opensuse-project] Re: openFATE feature 306967, KDE default
  • From: Sven Burmeister <sven.burmeister@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:17:45 +0200
  • Message-id: <200908070817.45739.sven.burmeister@xxxxxxx>
Am Freitag, 7. August 2009 00:45:27 schrieb Jim Henderson:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:57:40 +0200, Sven Burmeister wrote:
What I do not understand from a user's point of view is the following.
In this thread it is argumented that having a default or even having a
pre-selection on that installation page would send a message which could
offend, insult, disappoint etc. Gnome users.

Considering the claim from some in the KDE community that they're
offended, insulted, disappointed, etc because KDE isn't a preferred/
default/first selection, it seems reasonable to apply that metric evenly
across the memberships of both groups of users, no?

At least it would be a consistent line of argumentation for all subjective
points, such as wich DE is better etc. Not so for objectively measurable
points like user numbers.

If I take your Cons, then SLE alienates KDE users, contributors and does
not encourage KDE contributors to choose SLE. Sounds pretty harsh to me.
Would all those claiming that there is an alleged "anti-Gnome message"
in pre-selecting KDE agree that SLE sends and even clearer "anti-KDE

No moreso than Kubuntu sends an anti-GNOME message to Ubuntu users. SLE
is a derivation of openSUSE. That it prefers GNOME over KDE isn't IMHO
any more significant than any other distro having a derived distribution
that uses a different package set or desktop environment.

Why would the "treat them equally" stop there? Your argumentation is not valid
in my opinion since there is no KDE derivation like SLE, hence there is a
negative message sent to KDE from the SLE people. If there was, I would agree
with you.

There is a KDE Live CD, yet there is a Gnome Live CD as well, so they cancel
each other out. Yet there is only one SLE and it gets extra resources. So how
come this is not prefering one over the other?

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