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Re: [opensuse-project] KDE-LIVE-CD, very bad impressions
  • From: "Rob OpenSuSE" <rob.opensuse.linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:54:54 +0000
  • Message-id: <ce9d8ed60711260654m5b275a89h92eda3fe8d7179ce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On 25/11/2007, Gerald Pfeifer <gp@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007, Daniele wrote:
> Don't release iso with know bugs.

Well, if we strictly followed this advice we'd never, ever see a new
openSUSE release. :-)

A distribution comprising software on the order of a couple of hundred
millions lines of source code always will have bugs, both unknown and

As someone interested in doing some test work on KDE4, that is
understood. OTOH I also see that encouraging end users to try out
KDE4, but then not providing a recent and updatable version, that lets
you submit useful bug reports and see bugs get fixed; does not really
help anyone and could be perceived as time wasting.

On KDE4 test I tried :

KDE OS Live CD (late Oct, too little in it and seemed too out of
date, got updated)
OS 10.3 install KDE4
Look at KDE SVN build (I used Gentoo in past, but considered this last resort)
SuSE Build Service KDE4 - fails to let me log in with test kde4 user
account, and no updates via YOU last 2 weeks

At same time, I read and see KDE4 is really needing testers.
There is a sense of frustration, at not finding a realistic way to
help test KDE4; and contribute to shaking down the new releases. To
do this effectively, probably KDE4 rpm's updated via YOU, which track
the latest rc releases would seem most effective.

From the outside, it looks as if KDE4 test methods have been spread
too thin, 1 method that really worked, even if that meant
re-installing OS 10.3 from scratch would have been more effective than
the dabbling without end result. From the PR it looks like OS wants
to help KDE4 get stable, but in practice nothing I have tried, has
worked well enough to make me confident to submit a bug report.
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