I'll have to go back and forth between using KDevelop and XEmacs while
learning C++. KDevelop and the QT Designer do provide a useful framework. But as you've pointed out, they don't teach the language. That's why I cracked open XEmacs and tried to write a hello world. When I got the deprication messages I tried to find out how I should be writing a hello world. The books I have were no help. I was using the example code from these books. That's when I came on this list.
There has to be a better way of getting started than this. Are there any good books that teach C++ using these new standard libraries? I.e., a book that starts with the kind of hello world I ended up with after a few iterations?
Then learn multiple inheritance and templates. The problem is the time tradeoff. Most of us want to be productive and get something out the door, or use the skills on the job.
That can be quite frustrating. It's not like the good old days when someone could ask you how long it will take you to plough the field. You could go ask your grand dad how long it should take. Now people want to know how long it will take you to do something that no one knows how to do, or at least you don't know how to do it. If you knew, it would be done!
And then there's doing things correctly. That's where really knowing the language, and all the nuances comes in. The Deitel books are very good. I have the C version. We don't use that at Northeastern because the book was too difficult for the students. Another book I found useful several years ago was The C++ Primer. I was in a C++ shop with some very complex code and needed to upgrade my skills quickly. Even the old version that I have has proven useful. Both
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 07:28:28 -0500
"Steven T. Hatton"