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Re: [opensuse-packaging] Packagers - please check your "Url:"s

On 22/03/2019 22:22, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On 3/22/19 11:20 AM, Simon Lees wrote:
Unfortunately that's not how the openSUSE project works, we welcome contributions from
anyone who feels interested enough in creating them, if the contributions break something
or don't meet standards maintainers are more then welcome to reject the changes and give
feedback as to what changes need to be made in order for the change to be acceptable. In
openSUSE creating a submit request is a perfectly valid form of "talking to us"

And you think that the default answer should be "If no one is saying something,
I just
accept it and don't care if things break"?

Well generally I trust that people will submit things that as far as they are aware won't break, and personally I only accept requests into packages that I have some idea about and am reasonably sure that the change being made are sane. But yes in general if someone goes to the effort of making changes to a package that they believe will make the project better i'll accept it. I am even lucky enough to maintain some packages where generally someone in the community will get to updating them before I do this makes my life easier and gives me more time to work on other things, if i'm working on something urgent and won't have time to do a version update for a few days its always awesome to get a SR with the update from someone in the community within 24hrs, when this happens I always take the time to stop what i'm doing and review the request as quick as possible, generally I can approve it straight away although sometimes I need to leave feedback like you accidentally lost some changes made the other day and occasionally i'll leave a message saying I can't accept it at this time because of reason X. But generally the more time the community puts into doing things that i'm ultimately responsible for the more time I have to work on other things to help the community.

Yep and in this case the d:l:p maintainers should have given you reasonable
time to add a comment in the SR explaining why you couldn't accept those
changes at the moment.

I am the project maintainer. It's just the other guy that accepted the changes
without talking back to me.

Your not the project maintainer, your one of the maintainers, and maybe raising it with them is a better starting point. We expect project maintainers to work together as a team to decide how things like this are handled in individual devel repo's

Please don't automatically assume incompetence. And I'm certainly not
overwhelmed by the
load, I am doing way more than just maintaining these packages.

I'm not assuming incompetence, but you were complaining about the amount of
emails and not being able to respond to them which tends to suggest a problem
with workload.But I kinda understand this, I feel like I have a billion mail
filters so that I only read the obs emails I care about and not the 10,000 a
month that I don't.

The amount of mails is also pouring in because of tons of micro changes, each
of them generating a mail. And I was in an exceptional situation with moving
apartments and being on vacation and then also SUSE switching my email server
to a new infrastructure cutting me off from any communication.

Again, what is the point of updating just two out of 112 packages of an SDK
where the packages need to be in sync for the SDK to work? This is just a means
of annoying people.

That I do not know, but then again I neither wrote or accepted the changes.


Simon Lees (Simotek)

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