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Re: [opensuse-marketing] What is our identity?
On Martes, 15 de Febrero de 2011 20:12:27 Bryen M. Yunashko escribió:
James, you truly rock with your dead-on responses below. Its going to
be great having you join us at the hackfest. These are excellent
talking points and should definitely be incorporated into

See you next week. Will be good to finally meet you.


On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 11:10 -0800, James Mason wrote:
On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 00:59 +0530, Manu Gupta wrote:
Hi all,

What does openSUSE focus on

1. Do we focus on Desktop?


2. Do we focus on Servers?


3. We say we focus on balance,but what does that actually mean?

It means that openSUSE is the *only* complete, well-rounded
distribution. Only openSUSE provides a single installation media that
is equally suited to Servers, Virtual Servers, Workstations, Desktops,
Laptops, Netbooks, Tablets.

I ask this because

1. We are not as polished as a Desktop

In comparison to ? More than one press outlet has reviewed openSUSE as
having the cleanest KDE implementation. And no other distro provides
KDE, Gnome, LXDE, XFCE, IceWM, TWM, FVWM, all completely usable, all on
one media.

2. Our life cycle is not suited for Servers / Sysadmins.

Our lifecycle is fine for servers. I've been using it on servers since
7.2. The choice to upgrade and stay current, or leave a running server
as-is is up to the SysAdmin.

3. Nor are we exactly rolling releases, might be tumbleweed but there
are 100s of old packages too

I think we should be able to change that with 11.4 release atleast that
helps a lot. So if we do not decide it soon, we will certainly go under
an already existing identity crisis which is not good for the

We should regardless of anything, yes even the strategy (although more
alligned with it is preferable) must have a few plans to focus on for
11.4 release. Attracting a particular audience should change a lot of
perspective outside the community.


openSUSE is extremely flexible, and hides the inherent complexity of
that under a layer of well-engineered tools (esp. YaST). Our installer
provides not just one-click options to choose desktop, but also
one-click software patterns for LAMP stack, Kernel development, Ruby on
Rails, etc. No other distro offers that flexibility, and quality, in a
single distribution.

Ubuntu, more than any other annoys me on this front.

Ubuntu guy: "Here's an Ubuntu CD. It has a really easy to use desktop.
Try it out!"
Linux user: "Okay, but I prefer KDE."
Ubuntu guy: "Okay, here's a Kubuntu CD instead."
Linux user: "I noticed you didn't emphasize usability on the Kubuntu"
Ubuntu guy: "Umm... its basically stock KDE."
Linux user: "Okay, I also want to build a lightweight file server for my
home network."
Ubuntu guy: "Oh. Here's an Ubuntu server CD."
Linux user: "My daughter is using an older laptop - can I try out LXDE
on it with any of these 3 CDs?"
Ubuntu guy: "No, but you can download Lubuntu. But we don't support it,
its not 'official'."
Linux user: "What's that mean - I thought Ubuntu was free? What
Ubuntu guy: "You can buy support for the 'official' versions."
Linux user: ":/"

I did read an openSUSE Ecosystem article by James Mason some time ago. It is
one of the best article I have ever read about openSUSE Project. It's has a
very didactic vision. And I think it would be very useful to bring it back
fresh and make it available for marketing talks with James permission.

Ricardo Chung | openSUSE Linux Ambassador
a.k.a. amonthoth
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