May 2005 - openSUSE M17n - openSUSE Mailing Lists

No compose characters possible with asian language setting
by akimbo337＠gmx.de 16 Nov '09

16 Nov '09

Hello! I'm currently using SuSE 9.0 pro for both german and japanese input. This works fine so far, by setting the variables LC_CTYPE to ja_JP.UTF-8 and LANG to de_DE.UTF-8, but nevertheless I experienced a problem: With the LC_CTYPE set to japanese and an input method running (currently kinput2), I cannot type european language compose characters any more - at least the ones I used to produce with two sequent keystrokes ( ´ and e for é for example). The rest of my (german) keyboard layout works all fine, and with LC_CTYPE set to german, é's, à's, ô's, etc pose no problem, but then, of course, I cannot input japanese... This problem seems also to be existent for other language settings that use an input method, I tried it out with a friend who uses chinese input (also on SuSE 9.0 pro). We (my friend and I) are currently writing an article about asian language input with StarOffice/OOo, so we would really appreciate any help or hint concerning this problem. Thanks. Marcel Boeing

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Where are m17n Pages on SuSE/Novell site?
by Jethro Cramp 30 May '05

30 May '05

Mike, What is the URL for your m17n docs nowdays? Thanks, Jethro

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Re: [m17n] Georgian UTF-8 locale missing
by Aiet Kolkhi 23 May '05

23 May '05

thanks, I seem to have managed to see the bug menawhile.

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Re: [m17n] Bringing new language (Georgian - ka) to SUSE
by Aiet Kolkhi 23 May '05

23 May '05

Hello Mike, thank you for the reply. > Please ask Karl Eichwalder <ke(a)suse.de> and Inés Pozo <ip(a)suse.de> (I > added them to the CC:). They can tell you all the details you need to > know. Thanks. Inés was kind enough to reply to my request already. It is nice to hear that Mr. Eichwalder is at SUSE :) He has done lots important things for i18n and m17n of various products/ systems. > > I would also like to provide SUSE Linux with seth of freely > > distributable Georgian scalable, professionally delta-hinted truetype > > fonts, which are produced by BPG Info-Tech, the leading vendor of > > Georgian typefaces. It would be nice if theese fonts could default for > > Georgian language. > > I would like to add them. Please tell me where I can download them. The fonts are available for download at http://aiet.qartuli.net/docs/georgian_on_linux_en.php There are three scalable font files: 1. BPG_Glaho.ttf.gz (Font name: BPG Glaho. Should default for Georgian language on SUSE). This ia a Helvetica type, proportional Georgian font. this is considered as one of the best Georgian fonts. 2. BPG_Chveulebrivi.ttf.gz (Font name: BPG Chveulebrivi. Georgian times-like proportional font). 3. BPG_Courier.ttf.gz (Font name: BPG Courier. For console and fixed width needs). The three fonts licenses permits free distribution separately of bundled with other OS software, as well as free noncommercial and commercial use. The font vendor is BPG Info-Tech, a Finnland-based software and font vendor company. > > I would also appreciate your tips how we could enrich the locale or > > any language-related data on the distribution. > Just send all ideas, suggestions, patches, etc. to this mailing list, > we can then add it to SuSE Linux. All right. Could someone kindly tell me where I can find the current Georgian xkb kayboard layout in the distribution? Should I also submit Georgian flag? I will also take a look at the system to find localisable resources. Also, could someone tell me if SUSE installer supports unicode? Thanks again and best regards, Aiet Kolkhi http://www.Gakartuleba.org

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What is wadokujt for? and: Some Scripts for Chinese and Japanese learning and Noxon Audio
by Marc Waeckerlin 20 May '05

20 May '05

In SuSE 9.3, there's a package wadokujt with a Japanese German dictionary. But it comes with no Program, only data is contained in the package. What programs in the SuSE distribution are thought to be used with wadokujt? KWordQuiz, KVTML: I use it together with KWordQuiz, but for this, I need to convert the data to kvtml. That's why I wrote wadokujt2kvtml.pl. There is another very similar dictionary file, named CEDICT for Chinese English translation. Unfortunately that does not come with SuSE. That file can be converted to kvtml using cedict2kvtml.pl. Noxon and Twonkyvision: All my CDs are stored in MP3 files, served via UPnP using Twonkyvision and played by a Noxon audio device. This works fine, but UTF-8 is not handled correctly. All German Umlauts and all Chinese music files are unreadable. Fortunately, on the unicode.org page, there's a file Unihan.txt, which defines the Chinese Unicode mapping, including the Mandarin PinYin translation. My script create-mapping.sh downloads this file and extracts the PinYin mapping I am interested in. The output from there is then used by utf8-to-ascii.pl, which converts all Chinese characters, German umlauts, French, Spanish, Italian accents to plain 7bit ASCII. I use this script in create-mp3-ascii-dir.sh (which is only an example and works only on my system), to create links to all my MP3 filenames, which are then 7bit ASCII and display well on Noxon. Another possible application: If you also consider the PinYin tones in utf8-to-ascii.pl (as they are considered in cedict2kvtml.pl), then you could easily build a Chinese text to speech synthesizer! - Or semi-automated translation: Translate the individual charaters to English using Unihan.txt. Is this also useful to others? Shall I make a webpage containing this information and scripts? Regards Marc

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Simplified Chinese in SuSE
by Marc Waeckerlin 19 May '05

19 May '05

I always had problems with simplified Chinese in SuSE, and this problem remains in SuSE 9.3, so I address it here. The difference between simplified and traditional Chinese is, that some characters have been simplified. This means, ~80% of the characters remain the same, but some characters are now simpler. Simplified Chinese is used in China mainland, where traditional Chinese is still used in Taiwan. In SuSE 9.3, when I select simplified Chinese as secondary language, everything works nearly fine, when I enter Ctrl-Space, I get a SCIM popup, where I can choose "Intelligent Pinyin" as input method. The problem now is, that only characters that are the same in simplified and traditional Chinese are shown in all programs (means in the SCIM, in KWrite, in konsole, etc.). All characters that are different in simplified Chinese are not shown at all (empty characters, like "space"). This means, I can only see the ~80% characters that are unchanged. Of course, it works, if I change the font either to a simplified Chinese font, or to GNU Unifont. It seems, as if the font substitution were not correctly configured for simplified Chinese. I have installed all available fonts. Of course, I don't want to define a substitute font for all of my fonts! But still, Chinese should work under all circumstances. I have newly installed SuSE 9.3 (not upgraded) and I have created a new user with SuSE default settings, so it is definitely not an upgrade problem. Some questions: - What is the simplest way for me to correct this? - Can I patch it in the global /etc (for all users)? - When and how will SuSE correct this? (Mike?) - Why aren't there more people from China complaining this? Have I some special configuration, which does not work (e.g. my main language is German, one of my secondary languages is simplified Chinese)? Thank you Regards Marc

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Korean (hangeul)
by hermanmeester 17 May '05

17 May '05

Hello, Does anybody know how to use the Korean alfabet (hangeul) for Linux? For the time being, I would only need it for word processing. Now I have only a great lot of special characters in Korean ready-made syllables but that takes a huge amount of time. It would be much easier if you could just enter the single letters and let the computer compose the syllable. Thank you, Best regards, Herman Meester Rotterdam, Netherlands

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Bringing new language (Georgian - ka) to SUSE
by Aiet Kolkhi 13 May '05

13 May '05

Hello, I would like to form and coordinate Georgian (ka) l10n team to support Georgian language support on SUSE Linux. Georgian is spoken in Georgia (Caucasus) and in some regions of other countries. It is a unicode-only language which uses its own alphabeth (one of the oldest, 33 letters, LTR). The language belongs to Caucasian family of languages. I have been supporting FOSS products and coordinating various Georgian l10n projects for years. Some of my projects can be found at http://www.Gakartuleba.org On the site, we use Marani tool, which helps with online Glossary creation and management, as well as a tool for online translations. I would very much appreciate your letting me know the steps required to form the official SUSE Georgian l10n team and start l10n right away. I would also like to provide SUSE Linux with seth of freely distributable Georgian scalable, professionally delta-hinted truetype fonts, which are produced by BPG Info-Tech, the leading vendor of Georgian typefaces. It would be nice if theese fonts could default for Georgian language. I would also appreciate your tips how we could enrich the locale or any language-related data on the distribution. Best regards, Aiet Kolkhi http://www.Gakartuleba.org

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