All, This is truly a testament to the team approach and depth of thought that went into the KDE3 desktop design. After more than a decade using KDE3, I am still discovering little gems you wouldn't normally think about, but when you see them implemented you think "You know, that was a damn good idea!" Take today, clicking on my 'Konsole-Restore Sessions' menu item to run the script to launch konsole and restore my 9 konsole tabas with ssh connections established, I looked at the tip-window (the "Show Tips on Startup"). To my surprise it was one I had not seen before. The tip widow is always captioned Did you know? ... pressing Ctrl while pasting the selection with the middle mouse button will append a carriage return after pasting the selection buffer? Thinking... well yes, if I have a non-newline terminated command in the select buffer, and I want to run it with the least possible disturbance to the position of my left hand on the keyboard and right hand on the mouse, the most efficient way to do that would be to utilize a control key available on the left side of the keyboard... It is that thoroughness that is totally missing in the latest incarnation of KDE. From what I have observed, probably the result of KDE development being fractured into many little camps with only 1, at most 2 people working on any app and absolutely no level of overall desktop use efficiency coordination between them. You cannot go back and build this type of efficiency and good design into a desktop after you port all the apps to your newest gotta-have widget library, it is either something built into the design of the desktop from the beginning, or it is lost forever. That is why there will never be another desktop with the sheer use efficiency that KDE3 has. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org