March 2013 - openSUSE KDE 3 - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-kde3] openSUSE 12.1 with KDE3 and KDE4 applications
by Gianluca Interlandi 05 May '15

05 May '15

Hi! I am about to install openSUSE 12.1 on a laptop. I want to use it mainly (or entirely) with the KDE3 desktop but I still want to be able to run KDE4 applications under KDE3. In the past, I have done this with openSUSE 11.3 and 11.4. During installation of 11.3 and 11.4, I selected KDE4 as the default desktop. Then I added the KDE:KDE3 repository and installed all the packages to properly run KDE3 following more or less the recommendations given here: HOW-TO: KDE 3.5 on 11.4 This has worked perfectly and I was even able to use the oxygen theme in KDE3. For example, okular and vlc came with the nice oxygen theme even when running under KDE3. My question is: Is this procedure going to work also with openSUSE 12.1 or is there anything in particular I have to pay attention to? Thanks! Gianluca -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde3] problems without HAL
by Michael Lashkevich 29 Mar '13

29 Mar '13

I have just installed OpenSUSE 12.3, and tried the configuration without HAL. There are some problems: 1. Kpowersave does not work. What applet should I use instead? I have tried xfce4-power-manager, but it fails redefine a power button (I usually redefine it as "hibernate"), and cannot start kscreensaver before going to sleep. Maybe there is something kdeish or qtish? 2. KDE3 does not mount media automatically. They are only mounted after demand from a program (e.g. krusader). 3. Krusader (KDE3) does not open a DVD disk. When it is not mounted, krusader mounts it, but does not change the directory. When it has been already mounted (by the first attempt to open), it tries to mount it again, fails, give the message that it has been already mounted, and do nothing (do not change the directory to DVD). The USB stick is treated correctly. 4. The last difficulty does not related with HAL, but by the way. Kde3-kile has some spurious dependency on "dviutils", which prevents its installation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde3] problems without HAL
by Ilya Chernykh 26 Mar '13

26 Mar '13

> I have just installed OpenSUSE 12.3, and tried the configuration without > HAL. There are some problems: > > 1. Kpowersave does not work. What applet should I use instead? I have > tried xfce4-power-manager, but it fails redefine a power button (I usually > redefine it as "hibernate"), and cannot start kscreensaver before going to > sleep. Maybe there is something kdeish or qtish? > kpowersave is not included in openSUSE. What do you use kpowersave for? > > 2. KDE3 does not mount media automatically. They are only mounted after > demand from a program (e.g. krusader). > Check if udisks-glue is running. If not try to start it with /usr/bin/udisks-glue --config /opt/kde3/share/config/udisks-glue.conf > > 3. Krusader (KDE3) does not open a DVD disk. When it is not mounted, > krusader mounts it, but does not change the directory. When it has been > already mounted (by the first attempt to open), it tries to mount it again, > fails, give the message that it has been already mounted, and do nothing > (do not change the directory to DVD). The USB stick is treated correctly. > Ask Serghei Amelian about this. 4. The last difficulty does not related with HAL, but by the way. Kde3-kile > has some spurious dependency on "dviutils", which prevents its installation. > I made the dependency soft. Try it again after update. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde3] Ideas for new NetworkManager frontend
by Serghei Amelian 26 Mar '13

26 Mar '13

Hello KDE3 users, I started the development for new NetworkManager frontend, but i'm not sure how to make it to be powerful and user-friendly at same time. Basically, it will have 3 components: 1) a secret agent running as KDE service 2) a connection manager, integrated in KControl 3) a kicker applet Any ideas will be apreciated (screenshots or .ui files created with Qt3 designer are preffered). Thanks. PS I attached a screenshot with current done work (the list of connections for ethernet and wireless). PPS Do not confuse "connection" with "access point" or "ethernet device". A physical device can have more than one connection (for example "eth0 work" and "eth0 home"). -- Serghei

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Re: [opensuse-kde3] problems without HAL
by Luiz Fernando Ranghetti 26 Mar '13

26 Mar '13

2013/3/25 Larry Stotler <larrystotler(a)gmail.com> > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Ilya Chernykh <anixxsus(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > kpowersave is not included in openSUSE. What do you use kpowersave for? http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_12.3/i586/kde3… -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde3] "suse-kde3" <opensuse-kde3@opensuse.org>
by Ilya Chernykh 25 Mar '13

25 Mar '13

> So there is no HAL support as of 12.3 at all? HAL is not included in openSUSE since openSUSE 11.4 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde3] problems without HAL
by Gianluca Interlandi 25 Mar '13

25 Mar '13

> There is an entry in the menu to end the session, suspend and hibernate. It does not > use kpowersave. Yes, that should work, too. But our discussion (if you have been following from the beginnning) was about kpowersave and HAL. Anything that skips HAL should still work. Gianluca ----------------------------------------------------- Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu +1 (206) 685 4435 http://artemide.bioeng.washington.edu/ Research Scientist at the Department of Bioengineering at the University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A. ----------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde3] problems without HAL
by Ilya Chernykh 25 Mar '13

25 Mar '13

>>> In the mean time, you can still hibernate or suspend your computer by >>> entering "powersave" or "powersave -U" on the commandline. >>> >> >> HAL has nothing to do with suspend and hibernate. >> > > That's why I'm saying that you can still suspend or hibernate through the > command line (i.e., without kpowersave). > There is an entry in the menu to end the session, suspend and hibernate. It does not use kpowersave. Do you have "end session" in the K-Menu? If you do not, this may indicate that you use some session meanager other than kdm3. Check http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3 to see how to enable kdm3. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde3] opensuse-kde3@opensuse.org
by Ilya Chernykh 25 Mar '13

25 Mar '13

>>> In the mean time, you can still hibernate or suspend your computer by >>> entering "powersave" or "powersave -U" on the commandline. >>> >> >> HAL has nothing to do with suspend and hibernate. >> > > That's why I'm saying that you can still suspend or hibernate through the > command line (i.e., without kpowersave). > There is an entry in the menu to end the session, suspend and hibernate. It does not use kpowersave. Do you have "end session" in the K-Menu? If you do not, this may indicate that you use some session meanager other than kdm3. Check http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3 to see how to enable kdm3. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde3] problems without HAL
by Ilya Chernykh 25 Mar '13

25 Mar '13

On Sunday 07 February 2106 10:28:15 you wrote: > > Trinity cannot work without hal at all. > > "At all" is like forever, impossible, absolutely, never, always, etc. You're > saying even on desktops not requiring any power saving features that using > Trinity on a Hal-free (12.3) system would be impossible? It will not build AFAIK. Ubuntu still uses HAL. Or they use the same mechanism as we do (developed by Serghei Amelian). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner(a)opensuse.org

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