still playing around with 11.4 and kde3:) , still sticking with 11.1 /kde3.5 as the main os, but that will probably change soon. just installed the latest 3.5 upgrades, all seems well. one little issue is needs debugging is the "suspend to disk" command on the laptop. the machine is a dell vostro 1710 with nvidia graphics and the suspend to disk command just fails. i see the disk drive light up for a split second, then.... nothing! the system is ready for more commands, all keeps working normally. using "tail -f /var/log/messages" shows no entry whatsoever. pressing suspend to disk does nothing other than perhaps change screen brightness, it seems it flips to brighter(!!!!), but that could be an illusion! suspend to disk works great on the desktop. the desktop and laptop software should be identical in the 11.4 partitions. the systems are not cloned, but were built the same way. suspend to ram works fine everywhere. hal is installed. any pointers toward debugging welcome. thanks, d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org