The other day on my new system, I was running gnome and decided to install kde, or so I thought. So I installed the kde_plasma pattern using zypper: zypper in -t pattern kde_plasma Then I was able to log into kde and got everything configured. Things were working fine. But I noticed that certain applications weren't there, like kcalc, and gwenview, and other things that I thought were standard for kde. So I did a zypper search, and found that I had not installed the pattern called "kde". So I then ran zypper in -t pattern kde And now I have all those other applications that am used to. All this came about because when I did the initial install from the installation dvd, I selected gnome instead of kde as my desktop. So my question is, what is the difference between the kde and kde_plasma patterns in the repositories? Is it just that the kde pattern is all the standard applications, while the kde_plasma is the desktop without most of the applications? -- George Box: 42.2 | KDE Plasma 5.8 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | 32GB Laptop #1: 42.2 | KDE Plasma 5.8 | AMD FX 7TH GEN | 64 | 12GB Laptop #2: 42.2 | KDE Plasma 5.8 | Core i5 | 64 | 8GB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org