On 12/08/16 09:11 AM, Markus Slopianka wrote:
On Freitag, 12. August 2016 10:28:34 CEST Anton Aylward wrote:
"non default" meaning what, exactly? That if you simply click through Yast during installation, there is only one user account at the end.
Non-defayult for you might be default for someone else. No, openSUSE has one default in that case. Everything else is post- installation customization.
Sure, go ahead and to that on a heavily multi-user ISP service that allows ssh & X-over-ssh access as many do, and see how welcome you are.
I betcha the "default" they have is a very different from the "default' you have on your home system, and if they are in any way competent they have taken measures to ensure you can't shut-down the system and can't become root. Yeah… See, I don't really care about the strange arguments you come up with. I made an argument that KShutdown's desktop icon in openSUSE should not override the upstream defaults and mandate that it runs only as root. openSUSE's KDE team agreed with me on that matter, so the discussion is closed as far as I'm concerned.
Markus, Try, as an ordinary user with no special privileges, to KILL or even INT a process you do not own, either in KSysguard or in htop. You need to provide the root password to do it. When you shutdown the system, processes *should* be stopped cleanly, meaning they are first given a SIGINT. If that fails, then they are KILLed, which certainly does *not* result in a clean shutdown of that process. Everything Anton has said makes perfect sense; there is nothing "strange" about it: you cannot cleanly and safely shut down the system unless you first gain root privileges. What is so difficult about that to understand? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org