September 2013 - openSUSE KDE - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-kde] can system sounds work by default (or be customized) without pulseaudio installed?
by Felix Miata 18 Oct '13

18 Oct '13

Normally I don't connect speakers to a PC, so my experience with sound is limited. Now I have one which I'll be using for video file editing, so sound needs to work reliably, but does not in 12.1, 12.3 & 13.1m3. It does work in Mageia 3/KDE4 (but only after reconfiguration after adding previously uninstalled pulseaudio), KDE/Fedora 18 & 19 (with pulseaudio installed), and 12.2 running Trinity instead of KDE, and without pulseaudio installed. http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/ contains selected hardware and installed software details as follows: troubleshooting data gathering script for Mageia: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/sndts.sh loaded snd modules for all installations: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/sound-big41-modules.txt Mageia 3 (KDE4): before: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/sound-none-big41-os131m3.txt http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/tsout-big41-mag3.txt after: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/sound-OK-big41-mag3.txt Fedora 18 & 19 (KDE4): http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/sound-OK-big41-f18.txt http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/tsout-big41-f18.txt http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/sound-OK-big41-f19.txt http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/tsout-big41-f19.txt (in latest F19 boot, on session start "Removed Sound Devices" window appeared, which seems to be a common openSUSE KDE4.x occurrence here, not necessarily on any particular host. In this case: "Capture: HDA Intel, ALC662 rev1 Analog (Default Audio Device) asking "Do you want KDE to permanently forget about these devices?") 12.1 (KDE3): http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/sound-none-big41-os121.txt http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/tsout-big41-os121.txt 12.2 (Trinity): http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/sound-OK-big41-os122.txt http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/tsout-big41-os122.txt 12.3 (KDE4): http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/sound-OK-big41-os123.txt http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/tsout-big41-os123.txt (MM apps installed: kdenlive, smplayer2, vlc; KDE 4.10.5) 13.1 (KDE4): http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/sound-OK-big41-os131m3.txt http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/tsout-big41-os131m3.txt https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Audio_troubleshooting and https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Pulseaudio seem to be of minimal use for "supported" installations, in this host's current case, only for 12.1. According to YaST2 in 12.3 & 13.1, the Intel HDA controller is configured, but without any mention of the string "realtek" as noted in dmesg and lsmod. Sound works when play test sound is selected, but there are no event sounds of any kind. Most notably absent are the startup and end session sounds. KMix shows 91% as default setting. The right click menu on the KMix icon on the panel shows 5 selections, among them, "Audio Setup", which when clicked does nothing, in both 4.10.5 & 4.10.97. Clicking on Multimedia in http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/ss4105-os123-120.png crashes systemsettings, again in both 4.10.5 & 4.10.97, so I can't even tell without booting something else where KDE4 sounds are supposed to be configured (apparently here, as in F18/19 this opens a Phonon Sound and Video Configuration window that includes "Notifications"). What's missing here? Does pulseaudio even have anything to do with this? Is there some kde package that KDE sounds and/or KMix depend on that isn't getting pulled in as a hard dependency (phonon/libphonon4?)? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Team meeting planned for Tuesday 24 September 18:30 UTC
by Raymond Wooninck 02 Oct '13

02 Oct '13

Dear Listmates, It has already been quite some time that we had a team meeting and given the upcoming 13.1 release, I would like to discuss the current status of KDE 4.11 and to see what is still missing or what needs polishing for the openSUSE 13.1 release. My proposal would be to have the meeting on Tuesday 24 September at the usual time (18:30 UTC). The agenda for the meeting can be found here : https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_meeting#Next_Meeting:_2013-09-24_Time:… Feel free to add the topics that you would like to discuss during the meeting. Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] for 13.1 release notes
by Felix Miata 29 Sep '13

29 Sep '13

It's looking to me like kscreen 1.1 isn't destined to make it into 13.1. If that's the case, single display users who count on overrides in /etc/X11/xorg.conf* to get X started as they desire will need to know that they will need an /etc/kde4/share/config/kderc file that contains the following: [Module-kscreen] autoload=false IIUC, kscreen 1.1 is planned to make xorg.conf* take precedence on single display systems if it/they exist(s) and is/are valid. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317929#c13 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Request to change KDE Patterns for 13.1 due to upstream changes
by Raymond Wooninck 26 Sep '13

26 Sep '13

Hi Stephan and Factory maintainers, I would like to inquire if it is still possible to make some last minute changes to the current KDE Patterns for 13.1 The reason behind is last minute changes upstream. The two changes would be: 1) Drop the current NetworkManager-kde4 in favor of plasma-nm. Beginning of this week upstream decided to drop support for NetworkManager-kde4 in favor of plasma-nm and the later is seen as the new standard NetworkManager plasmoid. 2) Suggest phonon-backend-vlc as the new MultiMedia backend instead of Gstreamer. This monring I read upstream messages that current the gstreamer backend should be considered unmaintained and this is also one of the reasons why it was never ported to Gstreame-1.0 and still uses the old Gstreamer_0.10 framework. Upstream is currently looking for a new maintainer, but the question is if they will find one. Both plasma-nm and phonon-backend-vlc are already in Factory, so it would just concern a change in the patterns. Subsequently we could also drop NetworkManager-kde4 completely. Please let us know if this change would be allowed, so that we can update the patterns in git and submit them to Factory/13.1. Thanks openSUSE KDE Community team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE Team meeting minutes (24 September @ 18:30 UTC)
by Raymond Wooninck 24 Sep '13

24 Sep '13

====================================================== Agenda: #1 KDE 4.11 in openSUSE 13.1 : - What was pushed to Factory ? - What can or need to be improved ? #2 Clean-up of disabled packages in KDE:Distro:Factory ====================================================== Meeting started by tittiatcoke at 18:30:28 UTC. The full logs are available at http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-kde/2013/opensuse-kde.2013-… . Meeting summary --------------- * AGREED: Plasma-nm will be proposed to be the new default KDE NetworkManager plasmoid for 13.1 (tittiatcoke, 18:46:34) * ACTION: tittiatcoke update the current plasma-nm with some upstream commits regarding notifications and widget layout (tittiatcoke, 18:47:06) * ACTION: tittiatcoke update the KDE patterns to remove networkmanagement-plasmoid and replace with plasma-nm (tittiatcoke, 18:47:36) * ACTION: tittiatcoke check with coolo if we still are allowed to perform this change (tittiatcoke, 18:47:51) * ACTION: tittiatcoke check with coolo if we can still have KDE:Telepathy in 13.1 (tittiatcoke, 18:50:32) * ACTION: tittiatcoke check with legal and coolo if we can still get Qt 5.1 in 13.1 (tittiatcoke, 18:58:33) * ACTION: shumski prepare phonon-patch regarding notification volume and push to KDF. (tittiatcoke, 19:01:41) * AGREED: disabled packages for both distro's in KDF will be removed (tittiatcoke, 19:14:44) * ACTION: tittiatcoke remove disabled packages in KDF (tittiatcoke, 19:14:55) Meeting ended at 19:22:15 UTC. Action items, by person ----------------------- * shumski * shumski prepare phonon-patch regarding notification volume and push to KDF. * tittiatcoke * tittiatcoke update the current plasma-nm with some upstream commits regarding notifications and widget layout * tittiatcoke update the KDE patterns to remove networkmanagement-plasmoid and replace with plasma-nm * tittiatcoke check with coolo if we still are allowed to perform this change * tittiatcoke check with coolo if we can still have KDE:Telepathy in 13.1 * tittiatcoke check with legal and coolo if we can still get Qt 5.1 in 13.1 * tittiatcoke remove disabled packages in KDF -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE4 konfiguration komplett löschen
by Mathias Homann 22 Sep '13

22 Sep '13

Hallo Liste, Was muss ich denn alles löschen, wenn ich meine KDE4 Konfiguration komplett loswerden will? Früher war das einfacher, da war alles in ~/.kde und sonst nirgends... heute gibt es mindestens .kde4, .local und .config und jede kde applikation hat ihren eigenen kopf 0.o Cheers, Mathias -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Something loading on login
by ianseeks 21 Sep '13

21 Sep '13

Hi Can anyone help? On one of my logins, the curser is bouncing away with an icon image of the "play" button on kscd/amarok as soon as the desktop appears. I can't find what this because if I click on anything else will create a second image bouncing i.e. alternating "play" button and kontact and the selected program won;t load until the "play" button has gone away. So this stops me from loading a Konsole to run "top". I've not set up anything to autostart. Any ideas?? Thanks Ian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Does KSCD refuse to play for everyone?
by Felix Miata 16 Sep '13

16 Sep '13

What follows is from 12.3, but it happens on 13.1M4 too, on both 32 and 64 bit installations, 2 of 1, 3 of other of 12.3 & 13.1M4, on 3 different machines: # zypper in kscd ...4 new packages to install... libdiscid0-0.3.0-2.1.1... libneon27-0.29.6-18.1.1... libmusicbrainz3-6-3.0.3-14.1.1... kscd-4.10.5-1.92.1... # kscd "/org/freedesktop/UDisks2/drives/TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SH_S202N" : property "DeviceNumber" does not exist "/org/freedesktop/UDisks2/drives/TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SH_S202N" : property "Device" does not exist "/org/freedesktop/UDisks2/drives/Floppy_Drive" : property "Drive" does not exist "/org/freedesktop/UDisks2/drives/HITACHI_HDS725050KLA360_ZBGDYU6F" : property "Drive" does not exist "/org/freedesktop/UDisks2/drives/TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SH_S202N" : property "Drive" does not exist [0x1b08898] main services discovery error: no suitable services discovery module Object::connect: No such signal Phonon::VLC::MediaObject::angleChanged(int) Object::connect: No such signal Phonon::VLC::MediaObject::availableAnglesChanged(int) MusicBrainz: Connecting to http://musicbrainz.org:80 MusicBrainz: GET /ws/1/release/?type=xml&discid=0l6G89a8qoz47f7CA85FD8dpOsU- MusicBrainz: Result: 0 (200 OK) MusicBrainz: Status: 200 MusicBrainz: Response: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><metadata xmlns="http://musicbrainz.org/ns/mmd-1.0#" xmlns:ext="http://musicbrainz.org/ns/ext-1.0#"><release-list><release><title>Fresh Aire I</title><artist><name>Mannheim Steamroller</name></artist><track-list><track><title>Prelude</title><duration /></track><track><title>Chocolate Fudge</title><duration /></track><track><title>Interlude I</title><duration /></track><track><title>Sonata</title><duration /></track><track><title>Interlude II</title><duration /></track><track><title>Saras Band</title><duration /></track><track><title>Fresh Aire</title><duration /></track><track><title>Rondo</title><duration /></track><track><title>Interlude III</title><duration /></track><track><title>Pass The Keg (Lia)</title><duration /></track><track><title>Interlude IV</title><duration /></track><track><title>Mist</title><duration /></track></track-list></release></release-list></metadata> -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] Does KSCD refuse to play for everyone?
by Александр Мелентьев 15 Sep '13

15 Sep '13

Yeah, never managed to make it play my CDs on 12.3 x64. Exactly this UDisks trouble. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] mc-edit? konsole? klipper? something else?
by Felix Miata 15 Sep '13

15 Sep '13

Often I need screen output I don't how to get except to copy it from a selection of Konsole output and paste it into a file. The file I paste into I open for edit with Midnight Commander's internal editor. What happens in pasting is a ton of padding with spaces and/or tabs. Here's an example of an unmodified save: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/KDE/upd-123-big41-20130914.txt 18013 bytes Here's what I expected (reduced slightly by removal of a few blank lines; reduced an order of magnitude by removal of most spaces and tabs preceding each line's first or second visible character): http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/KDE/upd-123-big41.txt 7118 bytes Where does all that padding come from ($SUBJECT)? How can I make what's pasted look like what's been copied, meaning no spurious invisible characters, without manual intervention? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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