On Friday, December 09, 2011 01:54:59 AM Malvern Star wrote:
Torsdag den 8. december 2011 17:00:38 skrev Malvern Star:
Yast is a GUI that can run under KDE, Gnome, LXDE or even in terminal mode.
This is not the issue. My issue relates to package management within KDE, without starting YaST, as the majority of my users are generally competent with computers, but essentially "non-technical". They are basically, "average users".
Why do "average users" use non-default/non-recommended package management? They don't. Packages that require the user to select an EULA (flash-player primarily) prevent updates from installing.
I can understand they complain about non-working updater applets since SUSE hasn't had a smooth updater since 10.0.
But if they use Apper for "normal" package management they're _asking_ for trouble. And basically "doing it wrong".
Installing updates is *basic functionality*. Why even bother having a system tray update application if you don't expect it to work.
Personally I'd wish it was possible to only include the updater applet part of Apper and exclude the rest from the default install. Since I'm sick and tired of people using KPK/Apper for jobs that should be done with yast/zypper. I'd agree with this, except that not even updates work. For goodness sake, the update applet doesn't even check for updates except immediately after booting now. This was not the case when 11.4 was first released. I agree with most of your points excepting this one, I have seen Apper check for updates at times other than system boot. In regards to the matter of EULA, I think I vaguely recall succesfully updating Flash with Apper. -- Roger Luedecke openSUSE Ambassador Ind. Repairs and Consulting **Looking for a C++ etc. mentor*** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org