Re: [opensuse-kde] Re: Clementine replacing Amarok?

On Wednesday, September 07, 2011 05:02:23 AM Kim Leyendecker wrote:

Am 07.09.2011 13:27, schrieb Adrian Schröter:

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Am Mittwoch, 7. September 2011, 13:30:14 schrieb Kim Leyendecker:

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Am 06.09.2011 22:27, schrieb Steven Sroka:

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On 6 September 2011 16:12, Michael Powell wrote:

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John McInnes wrote: >> On 09/06/2011 08:19 AM, phanisvara das wrote: >>>> probably a question of what one got used to. those who used >>>> amarok 1.4 >>>> a lot may experience some sort of 'culture shock,' since the >>>> interface >>>> changed a lot. others (like me) who didn't use the earlier >>>> version much, have less trouble. if that's true, having amarok >>>> as default and >>>> clementine as an option makes sense, since long time users are >>>> more >>>> likely to know about the alternative and can easier implement >>>> it. >> >> Yeah thats true, Amarok<= 1.4 was great. Really the best music >> player >> for a long time. Then the new Amarok came out... just horrible >> UI. I switched to Clementine.

The Amarok UI is just something to which I rapidly adapted. My bone to pick with the "new and improved" Amarok is every few updates, or so, it breaks. For version whores like me we will go along just fine for a while, but eventually (and fairly regularly I might add) some update installs a version which missed the QA cycle and has something wrong with it.

I used to just use Clementine temporarily and return to Amarok when some subsequent update had it working properly once again. As time went by and I experienced this cycle more and more I just stayed with Clementine. It doesn't seem to have this 'every few updates has a broken one...', at least have not seen it do this yet.

>> I don't mind if Amarok is default, so long as I can find >> Clementine easily. Currently it's in packman.

That's kind of how I feel too. As long as I can switch my system to whatever I choose I'm happy.

But are the majority of users happy with Amarok? I liked Amarok (except for playing CD's) until I tried Clementine - Christmas came early that day:)

Then maybe a poll is the best thing to do. I could talk to the news team if they would support a poll. We might could that include in news.o.o

Seriously, a poll is not a valid way to find a good default setup.

When you want to spend effort then define which tasks should be able to do with the music player and test this in real life afterwards.

Well, at first the music player should be able to play all common formats like MP3 or OGG

The UI should be intuitive and easy to use (easy doesn´t mean few features, it does mean, that even my mother, who isn´t a savvy person can use it *without* learning it for hours and can fix small configuration problem by herself.)

My favorite music player is still iTunes. Although it´s (at least under Windows) really big and fat, I like the way it works. Well, maybe because it´s the perfect product to work together with your iPod. I love having a statistic about which songs I heard and how often (well, I´m a statistic freak, I guess) so, iTunes is my first choice.

Yes, *mine* I guess, that the vast majority prefers using something more lightweight. And that´s an important point to me. I listened to music when I was working with my 4GB RAM notebook. I had have three programs open: Amarok for music, Firefox for internet and VirtualBox for a fresh installation of openSUSE factory. The played music wasn´t that good quality and often lagged a lot.

So, I would say, it´s important that the player is lightweight.

conclusion:

* should play common formats * should have an intuitive UI * should be lightweight and work well even with some old hardware

Do you agree? Something to add?

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The poll would only represent individual opinions of one kind of people, but it would not represent the audience we have in mind with our distribution.

Why? isn´t the audience our community? Or do you mean that not everyone is regarding such a poll, and that the minority is following it? Sounds very good to me. I used to like iTunes then they ept changing things and I abandoned it even on my Mac. I always thought that if "lightweight" wasn't too much of an issue that Songbird was one of the most robust, feature rich and professional looking media players. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org