-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Franklin (and David).
Third, although I don't always understand why, It is considered poor form to post your reply at the top of the page (unless you cut out all of the quotes) ie. leave the quoted part at the top of the reply and write your reply directly after each section or at the bottom of the page.
Only some of the purists consider top posting a fubar on the suse-linux-e list, others (such as myself) could care less. I think that some prefer bottom posting because of continuity ( and the fact that some are just obsessed with netiquite protocols.. lol). Most are fairly friendly, but as David stated there are a couple of those that are,.. well,.. less than socially inclined. But, the others on the list will only let them get carried away so far before we return counter flames (of a sort) and insist that the lay off,.. this is especially true with new users to the list, wherein on a few occassions the less social on the list have jumped on the new users and in turn we jump to assure the new users that this is in no way the norm. The point is that generally those on the list are very very helpful and knowledgable and adhere to the spirit of the list - which is to foster the adoption and use of SuSE Linux. :)
running a Celeron 600 MHz Pentium III processor with an ASUS CUV4X Motherboard. 192 Mg SDram. A Crystal sound" card, and a 4x Agp Video Graphics card by ATI model #8500 as suggested on the SuSE Linux software package.
Sounds like there shouldn't be any hardware problems / incompatabilities.
I haven't tried Gnome or Blackbox (never heard of Blackbox) I thought I'd get KDE going and stable first and drift into the other stuff as confidence builds.
Pretty easy to try them, at login there is a drop down list that lets you choose other window managers to try. That said KDE is in my mind the most full featured desktop environment, but alot of times when I'm trying to work out system problems I use Blackbox as it's very fast and easy on resources.
You can also load in other WMs (window managers) and then use the KDM Session Manager to put these into the login menu. This is in the KDE Control Center (KControl)as root. And, in case your unaware, I would strongly suggest you setup a "user" account and do the bulk of your work from there, that way it's harder to "hose" your system, but will necessitate some fiddling with "permissions" for the user account for things like cdrecorders, video, etc..(but you may know this already)... :)
I have loaded some math software Through YaST. Of which two of the eight modules do not work. The one I really wanted (z88) won't show up in the Edutainment/Mathmatics" program group. I have tried to load this package about 8 times and it still is a no go.
When you say modules do you mean programs you installed or are you talking about yast modules
Generally in Linux "modules" refer to the "kernel" modules that are either drivers or devices, Often times programs (rpm,src,rpm or tar.gz, tgz, based) are referred to as "packages". e.g. foo.rpm/foo,src.rpm or foo.tar.gz/foo.tgz. Also, specific to SuSE is the "YaST modules". This is in, of course, reference to the various SuSE specific configuration modules such as those used to set up devices and other configurations. (cable/modem/dsl for ppp0/eth0 and/or sysconf, users/groups, adding/removing programs, etc...).
I went onto the
web to Dr. Frank Riegs website and he explained how to see if it is loaded on the system using the "rpm -q z88" command from logging in as administrator and using the root xterm shell. He really doesn't explain how to run the program only how to download it and install. The other program that doesn't work is the "Surf" program. It does show up in the program group but blinks out and goes away when I active it. I haven t tried to reload this one yet.
Also, another good habit to get into, especially for the list and to see whats happening is start a program for the konsole (command prompt - a quasi dos prompt) and look at the out put. It would look something like: crrey@Crusher-1:~> /usr/local/nostromo/glnostromo -d 0 arg: -d or: crrey@Crusher-1:~> galeon /opt/gnome2/bin/galeon-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtkembedmoz.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory The 1st line shows a working program, and the 2nd line show a program that is not running as perhaps one would like. The 2nd line is useful because it tells us that libgtkembedmoz.so isn't seen by the program (a gnome face for the mozilla web browser or that program doesn't exist - in this case galeon doesn't see it). This sort of output is not only useful for you to see what is getting kludged but the same pertains to those on the list -- they can better help if they have this info. Forgive me if I'm over simplifying, I just want to be concise and don't know your level of experience - perhaps this is "oldhat" or all new... I don't want to assume either way right now.
Some progs won't automatically show up in the menu. you can use Konqueror to view the files that are in an rpm package, then open a terminal and type the programs name (don't do this as root in case something goes wrong).
For example I opened a shell then typed (without the quote marks) "surf" and the program ran. If there is a problem w/ the way the program runs then it will probably give you clues in the shell window.
I have dumped Open Office and loaded the Koffice suite. It is a much nicer suite anyway and even works!
Ya, OOo (Open Office.org) had some problems in the default/out of the box version, but using YaST Online Update (YOU) will most likely have fixes for this, in case your interested at a later date. Also, with 8.1, there are YaST/YOU updates that will need to be updated, such as those that pertain to being able to get a correct list of updates/fixes/security patches. The out of the box YaST/YOU program should be updated first, then you'll be able to get the latest version - the program will tell you which updates to get to do this, just focus on the YaST/YOU packages 1st, then restart YaST/YOU and get the updates. HTH, Curtis :) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+hfOA7WVLiDrqeksRAiXeAKCz7yc0UqYPYnnIzcDq3j2EZCdpyACfQT8y Jzgq4KbhV5RbATkCGMOBZl0= =HTtR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----