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Re: [opensuse-gnome] GUADEC Report for openSUSE
  • From: Bryen <suserocks@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:28:32 -0500
  • Message-id: <1216938512.3408.31.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sounds awesome. Any chance there will be improved support for video
editing? Kino is pretty decent but not as easy to use/effective as
iMovie for Mac users. Cinelerra is too complex for general users.

While I think we have some good decent video editing tools here on
Linux, improving the end-user experience could greatly expand the market
for new GNOME/Linux users. It seems to be an overlooked segment in


On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 16:14 -0400, JP Rosevear wrote:
As promised, interesting GUADEC tidbits.

* GNOME 3.0
-framework for getting there proposed by release team
-generally well received
-some concern about what the "cool" stuff will be
-good summary
-current approx. schedule is spring 2010 (GNOME 2.30 == 3.0)
-ideal for a SLED 11.5 about ~18 months after SLED 11
-Federico talked to TimJ+Kris (Imendio) and Lucas+Vincent (release team)
-porting even obsolete / deprecated platform libraries to new
ABI to keep/backwards compat probable
-agreed that we don't want to pull a GNOME 2.0.
-Better sooner than later to avoid a GNOME 1->2 disaster.
-Imendio mentioned producing compiler-based tools to do
automatic porting.

* Online Desktop
-big board has improved a *lot* since last year
-connections to many more services
-ui improvements
-gconf settings sync
-favorite applications
-using slab/tile type functionality for some stuff
-seems unlikely to have full support in initial RHEL 6
-maybe in updates and RHEL 7
-many infrastructure issues to solve
-shared and/or federated servers?
-what about distros without for-profit backing?
-what about ad revenues driven through this?

* Multimedia/UPnP-AV
-Aaron/Gabriel spoke with Zeeshan Ali about gupnp implementation
-uses libsoup/libxml2 for HTTP/SOAP
-requires a number of libraries to get the UPnP-AV spec (gssdp,
gupnp, gupnp-av, at a minimum)
-vala enters the picture if we wish to use their media server as
a starting point
-gupnp and gupnp-av will be difficult to bind do to the way they
use GObject signals (similar to GStreamer)
-very GNOMEy stack - GIO/GMainLoop integration, nice, but raises
xplat issues for Banshee at least
-looking to push gupnp into many areas of GNOME where UPnP
standards exist in the market already
-exciting, but still very young

* Multimedia/Elisa
-Elisa is maturing nicely, but also growing in terms of functionality
-Last year they wanted to be more of a front end to existing MM
platforms, this year they want to be the MM platform

* Multimedia/GStreamer
-Aaron/Gabriel worked with Win Taymans on starting port to playbin2 in
-will provide gapless playback and other goodies in the future

* Evolution Re-Licensing
-well received, lots of support

* Conduit
-nautilus, totem, eog plugins so apps can leverage conduit
-author is not that happy with the UI for non-power users
-looking to share web services login manager with gnome online desktop

* WebKit
-webkit support heading for epiphany, yelp, gimp, pidgin, evolution
-webkit has nsplugin support

* Telepathy/Collaboration
-telepathy-glib work to enable simpler usage by clients
-cool "tube" work for files and vnc
-vnc works well
-issues around bandwidth demands for this sort of use
-voice/video working well for XMPP and SIP
-GSoC for farsight videoconferencing
-Ekiga 3.0 coming

* Sound
-pulseaudio will probably be proposed as an external dependency
-work is planned to get it well-integrated for 2.26
-with sound events through libcanberra

* Keyboard Handling
-Richard Hughes keyboard handling diagram

* Bluetooth
-bluez 4.x series coming
-3.x compat available at compile time in daemon
-last stuff ported in ~6 months
-Bastien N. from RedHat has partial bluetooth support for NM

* Hardware
-marco polo/shackleton projects for hardware policy

* Random Applications to Watch:
-nautilus mercurial plugins
-gdesklets (seems to be living a bit again)
-clutter toolkit
-GeoClue/gypsy for location aware apps
-wizbit revisioning file system base on gitcore
-time machine like functionality

JP Rosevear <jpr@xxxxxxxxxx>
Novell, Inc.

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