June 2007 - openSUSE GNOME - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-gnome] New GConf2 RPM macros for older products in GNOME:Community
by James Ogley 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

As the subject says, I've added a package that adds the new RPM macros that Stanislav has created for 10.3+ to GNOME:Community. This provides the same macros for 10.2 and older. Simply add this to your spec file and you can use roughly the same spec file across the versions: %if %suse_version <= 1020 BuildRequires gconf2-rpm-macros %endif If you include this within the %if statement then the spec file will normally be exactly the same throughout with no more %suse_version checks required %define _prefix /opt/gnome %define _sysconfdir /etc%_prefix Of course, there will be some exceptions to that but not many :) -- James Ogley james(a)usr-local-bin.org http://usr-local-bin.org GNOME for openSUSE: http://software.opensuse.org/download/GNOME:/ Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/in -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] DjVu support in Evince
by Kirill Kirillov 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

Greetings. How to enable <subj> in OpenSuse 10.2 and why it's not done by default? Thanks. -- Kirill Kirillov. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] suggestions for a simpler design for the gnome-main-menu
by Christian Jäger 24 Jun '07

24 Jun '07

Mockups: http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7501/cleangnomemainmenumockull6.png http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1028/appbrowsermockupzj3.png http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6744/controlcentermockupxw7.png Hello, with the 0.9x-version, the main menu has acquired new functionality but also has lost some of its intuitive handling. Two bars plugged unto the centre of the menu are one too many. And my father wasn't even capable of finding the log-out entry in the _old_ version of the menu. Big Board,too, now tries to cram as much info as possible into one menu (leading to an information-overload IMHO). I think it would be a good thing if the gnome-main-menu would set itself apart from that by providing as simple a way as possible to do as many things as possible within a menu. I hope you don't mind that I make some suggestions for a simpler design of the gnome-main-menu also showing an application-browser and the control-center inline. So, basically I'd like to see the menu slimmed down somewhat. Perhaps less can be more, sometimes. There's two ways one could do something about that: Omitting unneccessary things and arranging things better. 1. Unneccessary space-stealers How many times do we really need to lock the screen manually? Not too often, as it happens automatically after a few minutes. So skip that menu-entry. Does the entry-field for the search-menu have to cover the whole length of the menu? Certainly not! 2. Clever re-grouping of buttons How many times do we want to install software when we open the menu? Not too often. We want to do it mostly when we realize that an application we need is not installed. So put the 'install software'-button next to the 'More...'-button in the menu/the app-browser, where the user will need it. Do we really need to know whether the machine is connected to the Net everytime we open the menu? And also, how much space there is on the HD? I think not. Also, this replicates data we should be shown in the gnome-panel (network-manager, D-Bus low-space warning). In the end, we would look for system-information somewhere where we can do other system-maintenance, also. So, put it into an inline control-center (see mockup). This leaves us with few, but important menu items on the right-hand bar: 'Help' and 'Logout'. As shrinking the 'Search'-menu has gained us space, and as especially the 'Logout'-button is very important, one could and should put them into the top-bar of the menu IMHO; next to the search-field. Below that, as in the 0.9x-version there is 'Applications', 'Documents' and 'Places', and it now has gained a 'System'-entry which shows the new inline control-center and some system-info. The active entry ('Applications' respectively 'System' in these mockups) should be highlighted in blue, but, hey, I'm no good with the Gimp; sorry. Please also excuse the mixture of German and English in the mockups. Well, this is how the mockups' design got together. Now for the functioning of an inline application-browser and control-center that I hope to see someday. :) In the applications-browser the upper half of the windows should contain the categories of applications; if not all fit in, the 'More...'-button should show the next categories. The lower half of the window shows the applications of the selected category. The 'More...'-button shows the next applications of that category. It would be very clever if the most-used applications were shown first. The search-button could search the for the active area (applications, documents... you could also regard e-mail as documents) while typing and only if the user hits the return-key the beagle-search interface could come up. Same for the control-panel; the 'More...'-button only changes the appropriate part of the window. BTW, the Big Board developers have come up with an idea worth stealing: installation suggestions (http://clarkbw.net/blog/2007/05/04/bullish-on-finding-new-applications/). For example if you search for 'presentation' and don't have presentation-software installed, it would suggest OpenOffice as a recommended install. That would be some idea for future use. It would be nice to have 'suggstions' for categories,too. Say, you browse the 'Internet'-category; there's two lines with place for 3 applications-icons each. Now, say, you'd only have 4 applications installedd, so the otherwise 'empty' spaces in line 2 would be filled by two suggested installations. Enough stuff to think about. I hope someone might find the mockups worth thinking about, too. Greets, Chris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Package Proposal: netspeed-applet and sensors-applet
by Andras Barna 21 Jun '07

21 Jun '07

Hi What do you think about put in Factory and 10.3 these two applets? IMHO are really cool and useful, and no much work with them. http://www.wh-hms.uni-ulm.de/~mfcn/netspeed/ http://sensors-applet.sourceforge.net/ Regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] PulseAudio
by Wade Berrier 12 Jun '07

12 Jun '07

Any plans to utilize PulseAudio like other distributions are or will be doing? http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntudesktop704 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/8/FeatureList Pulseaudio is a drop in replacement for esd, supports alsa and oss streams, and has some features that alsa/dmix doesn't have. The only app I've not been able to get working with pulseaudio is mythtv (bug submitted here: http://www.pulseaudio.org/ticket/94 ). Page about getting most linux apps to work using pulseaudio: http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup Here's a nice presentation about linux audio and some of the advantages pulseaudio has: http://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2007/video/talks/211.ogg http://0pointer.de/public/pulseaudio-presentation-lca2007.pdf I think it would be great that if on a default suse install all the sounds from the major apps just worked, even on my crappy one channel soundcard. PulseAudio seems to be a nice solution for this, and enables some cool features (remote playback, synchronized audio over a lan connection, per application persistent volume settings, etc...) Wade -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Pidgin is not ready yet to be shipped with mono support
by Ivan N. Zlatev 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

I see that Pidgin is still compiled with mono support. What's the point in that? I have seen the code - it is terrible and no near functional, there isn't even an api exposed. I had a chat with the developer, who is now working on it for google summer of code and gave him a few pointers and some of my old code, so hopefully there should be something useful at the end. Yet as already mentioned the current code is not functional in any sense (both from developers and users prespective) and now it (the monoloader code) causes random crashes as well here[1]. So let's get of rid until the mono code is stable and functional? Will someone disable mono support in pidgin in build service or should I do it? Regards. [1] Native stacktrace: /usr/lib/libmono.so.0 [0xb6117d14] /usr/lib/libmono.so.0 [0xb60ceb0a] [0xb7f92440] /opt/gnome/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 [0xb7bb01b0] /opt/gnome/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x12b) [0xb7586c0b] /opt/gnome/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 [0xb7597d3d] /opt/gnome/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x68f) [0xb759900f] /opt/gnome/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x35) [0xb7599415] /opt/gnome/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 [0xb7cc3b18] /opt/gnome/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_window_propagate_key_event+0x107) [0xb7cd3ba7] /opt/gnome/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 [0xb7cd6c0c] /opt/gnome/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 [0xb7bb01b0] /opt/gnome/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 [0xb7585407] /opt/gnome/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x12b) [0xb7586c0b] /opt/gnome/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 [0xb7598383] /opt/gnome/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x68f) [0xb759900f] /opt/gnome/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x35) [0xb7599415] /opt/gnome/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 [0xb7cc3b18] /opt/gnome/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_propagate_event+0x1ba) [0xb7ba968a] /opt/gnome/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_main_do_event+0x317) [0xb7baa857] /opt/gnome/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 [0xb7a3d02a] /opt/gnome/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_main_context_dispatch+0x182) [0xb74f3de2] /opt/gnome/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 [0xb74f6e1f] /opt/gnome/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_main_loop_run+0x1a9) [0xb74f71c9] /opt/gnome/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_main+0xb4) [0xb7baacd4] pidgin(main+0x63e) [0x800951be] /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xdc) [0xb7204f9c] pidgin [0x8004b511] -- Ivan N. Zlatev Web: http://www.i-nZ.net "It's all some kind of whacked out conspiracy." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Packages Failing integrity test
by Alex Litvak 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

I have been using GNOME:UNSTABLE repository for a while, everything seems to be good until last week Friday. During the update I started getting messages that all gnome packages are failing integrity check after download completes. Re-downloading changes nothing. Please help. TIA, Alex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] GNOME:UNSTABLE problems
by Stanislav Brabec 01 Jun '07

01 Jun '07

Hallo. I am using 10.2 + GNOME:UNSTABLE and I am experiencing several strange problems. Could anybody using GNOME:UNSTABLE or Factory confirm these problems? - Metacity does not start from saved session. Starting it manually helps (but may be complicated to do it without window manager). - Epiphany often loses DNS resolution, but the rest of the system continues to work. I suspect nss-mdns. I have commented it out in /etc/nssswitch.conf and it seems to help. - pam_keyring does not work: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=260590 Not counting these problems it works nice. -- Best Regards / S pozdravem, Stanislav Brabec software developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s. r. o. e-mail: sbrabec(a)suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 966 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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