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[openFATE 307488] Simplify Menus (More like Debian/Ubuntu)
Feature changed by: Karl Cheng (qantas94heavy)
Feature #307488, revision 10
Title: Simplify Menus (More like Debian/Ubuntu)

openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger)
reject date: 2010-11-08 16:37:41
reject reason: Not done for 11.3.
Requester: Important

- openSUSE-11.4: New
+ openSUSE-11.4: Rejected by Karl Cheng (qantas94heavy)
+ reject reason: Not done in time for 11.4 release.
Requester: Desirable

- Requested by: Jason Fergus (jfergus)
+ openSUSE Distribution: Done
+ Priority
+ Requester: Desirable
Partner organization:

I am always shocked at how sloppy the menus are in not only openSUSE,
but Mandriva, etc. 
Most of them have the structure of Applications -> Internet -> Browsers
-> Firefox
If there is ONE entry under browswers, why have a sub menu?  That's one
more bit of waiting you have to do for the sub menu to open.
Debian and Ubuntu both have it set up as Applications -> Internet ->
Firefox.  Makes far more sense that way.  Now what would be nice is a
programmatical way to have the menus create a sub menu if (and only if)
the full menu starts to get too full, or there are at least 5 of an
application 'type'.  This obviously would require some things beyond
just the distributions though, and instead would require some
alterations to the freedesktop spec for creating menu entries. 
I do feel that this would help with some major frustrations of users
who are thinking of switching.  I seriously would have stayed with
using openSUSE except for this issue (and the billion different
repositories that are out there.)
This is done for GNOME for openSUSE 11.4 but not yet for KDE.

#1: Stephan Binner (beineri) (2009-08-23 15:21:50)
You must be talking about GNOME as the KDE desktops to that on [open]
SUSE for ages. And it's also supposed to change for GNOME in openSUSE
11.2 (

#2: Ralph Ulrich (ulenrich) (2009-08-23 15:51:00)
I want to support this fate. Here my case study:
Recently I wanted to change default avi-viewer. I got the menu
structure to select my new default viewer. I wanted to choose vlc. It
is hidden under: menu/apps/multimedia/audio
For I had forgotten vlc to also be an audio-app I didn't find it. (I
entered "/usr/bin/vlc" - but I do not expect normal users to get such
an idea)

#3: Ralph Ulrich (ulenrich) (2009-08-23 15:56:08) (reply to #2)
In regard of Kde4 :
As nowadays users start there apps using favorites or ALT+f2
I vote for a more flat menu structure!

#4: Thiago Sayao (sayao) (2010-06-22 13:28:54)
This would be nice, the menu in opensuse has too many levels.

#5: Otso Rajala (daedaluz) (2010-08-16 02:34:02)
Applies to KDE Kickoff as well, really frustrating and unnecesary.
Reducing menu levels universall6y by one would be the best.

#6: Vincent Untz (vuntz) (2010-09-07 18:50:36)
This is fixed in GNOME now in 11.4. We use another structure than the
KDE one since we were unhappy for exactly this reason.

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