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[openFATE 305664] Server CD
  • From: fate_noreply@xxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 15:08:19 +0100 (CET)
  • Message-id: <feature-305664-45@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Feature changed by: Sławomir Lach (Lachu)
Feature #305664, revision 45
Title: Server CD

openSUSE-11.2: Rejected
Requester: Desirable
Projectmanager: Neutral

openSUSE-11.4: New
Requester: Mandatory

Requested by: Martin Schlander (cb400f)
Product Manager: (Novell)
Project Manager: (Novell)
Engineering Manager: (Novell)
Partner organization:

Providing an official openSUSE server cd - with some often used server
software - and perhaps a lightweight window manager like icewm or
similar - would be a great thing for a number of reasons.
* openSUSE is generally considered a desktop centric distribution,
providing a server cd would do a heck of a lot to highligt the
excellent (home-)server qualities of openSUSE.
* The few people that realize that the openSUSE DVD/netinstall actually
offers text mode/server installation, are often discouraged by needing
to download a full DVD, or do troublesome and slow http/ftp
* Server users are generally more technical people, it would be
beneficial to attract more of these to the openSUSE project.
* More people using openSUSE on home servers would likely have spill-
over effects on SLES sales.
* An openSUSE server cd, would be an excellent response to Ubuntu
server edition and Microsoft Home Server.

#1: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:20:09)
Please Market as Server and Virtualisation CD. An option to simple
install as guest OS would have market appeal. As someone who does use
Netinstall CD on occasion, and consider a distro for SOHO servers, a
key point for this sector is a reliable upgrade, without re-
installation. Ubuntu offers LTS and point updates for their server
edition. It's not just the availability of a CD that makes them

#2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:23:54) (reply to #1)
A tuned version for Virtualised hardware not just 'badge' engineering
was my intention. Making things simple and quick for folk in a hurry on
Other OSes, would help build market share.

#3: Birger Kollstrand (mrkane) (2009-03-09 15:22:51)
I like the idea. It would be good to have a new openSUSE Server edition
with the forthcomming YaST WEB managment tool in 11.2 I'd also love to
see that this server has a "Home" focus. Make it easier for everyone to
rune a openSUSE "Home" ser ver on a PC or an embedded NAS or similar.

#4: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-09 16:00:12)
Who wants to maintain that edition?
Who wants to define that edition?

#5: Unknown User (fate_noreply) (2009-03-09 17:05:05)
Seems a good idea to me too. I found by chance some info on Windows
Home Server, and I was wondering if it would be possible to do
something similar with openSUSE. The discussion was started here:
Let's see how it evolves ;-)

#6: Michael Löffler (michl19) (2009-06-05 15:12:38)
Hmm, its challenging for a feature request if even the requester rates
it just desirable. From the voting and my understanding I thinkt that's
a thing which should be considered. But as coolo already mentioned, who
will maintain it, who will define it? Do we have a server edition
already in the OBS?

#7: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-06-09 12:19:28)
still looking for maintainer

#8: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2009-07-01 23:19:50)
#opensuse-server has been created to hopefully build a community around

#9: Luc de Louw (delouw) (2009-07-12 14:35:48)
IHMO this is not needed. On install just choose "minimal installation"
(somthing like this) as package group and install any needed packes
If you got your custom selection just save it or clone the system with
As Coolo outlines: There must be a maintainer for this. If some persons
(more than one person please) volunteers, why not.

#14: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-12 11:46:41) (reply to #9)
The point would be to make a faster more efficient install, for those
who aren't familiar with SuSE ways of doing things.  It takes a while
to understand and appreciate YaST, and  they will often be too rushed
to figure out how to do the selections
The Server CD could use images like the desktop's have to create
faster, say a LAMP server, file & print server, to reduce clicks to get
something useful.

#15: Andras Dosztal (adosztal) (2010-09-26 09:52:23) (reply to #14)
YaST has patterns for these servers, and it's easy to find during the
installation. If you want specialized servers, SUSE Gallery has many
great images for it, ex.:

#10: George Pantazis (gpant) (2009-07-12 22:41:02)
When I voted for this feature I thought this was about a Home Server in
the same league as Windows Home Server.
People that are going to install it on a real server would use a
netinstall or a special build through studio, they wouldnt care much
about a text only CD.
It would be interesting if this FATE had the goal to create something
like WHS that would use a lightweight WM, a special YaST Module that
will be easier to use by people that are not technical and would
utilize the new http access to YaST. It would require that most of the
YaST modules would have to hide the more advanced features (under a
Advanced Features tab?:-) and even provide new modules with
functionality specific to Home Servers for example setup Mediatomb and

#11: wilson coronado barrantes (wecb_xxx) (2009-08-04 19:31:20)
I really feel uncomfortable with ubuntu server(i prefer opensuse is
more robust and easy to manage, i feel opensuse is more like a linux
server with a desktop on top), but we have to choose it because for 2
reason's: firts LTS and second is more more easy to install because is
more easy to get a cd than a DVD. Opensuse must have a cd server.

#13: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-12 11:38:54) (reply to #11)
There are Net Install CD's only 100 or 150 MiB, which lets you only
download what you use, you don't need DVD to have the full install

#12: Raimo Schmidt (raimoschmidt) (2009-08-18 07:35:06)
Great Idea. If SUSE will have Server, developers will be able to
imcrease attention to Server Functions
Such is MS AD integration (I mean let SUSE Server be your Windows
domain controller)  
Also LTS will be good point for certifications in some countries

#16: Michal Papis (mpapis) (2010-12-12 02:28:19) (reply to #12)
LTS + server edition, how much I miss it, on, they already
stoped givving newest opensuse, all you can find is ubuntu server
edition ...

+ #17: Sławomir Lach (lachu) (2010-12-12 15:03:01)
+ Not better to do some stuff like netinstall, but as an application to
+ prepare DVDs/CDs to install system?
+ As Wubi or LiveSystem, which prepare disk image to burn onto drive and
+ install on another computer. We could handle some differences/spins(I
+ know, that OpenSUSE now supported some spins) with configuration for
+ this program.

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